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Opakapaka 03-10-2019 12:42 AM

Ethiopian 737 MAX 8 crash
 
An Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 heading to the Kenyan capital Nairobi has crashed near Addis Ababa, the airline said on Sunday morning.

The plane, a Boeing 737-800MAX with flight number ET 302, lost contact soon after taking off at 08:38 am local time from Bole International Airport in the Ethiopian capital, the airline said in a statement.

UAL T38 Phlyer 03-10-2019 03:10 AM

Ethiopian 737 Max Crash
 
Not again... 157 lost.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47513508

popcopy 03-10-2019 04:50 AM

Every single one of those people was once a baby, learning to take their first steps, under the watchful eyes of a proud parent.

A lot of peoples’ stories got snuffed out unexpectedly this morning. Tragic.

RIP

RI830 03-10-2019 05:59 AM

Another 737-8MAX. Hope it isn’t the same issue as before.
Boeing is gonna have a serious problem to wrangle.
Article states unstable and excessive vertical speeds.

Sad day indeed.

nosecohn 03-10-2019 06:57 AM

FlightRadar says: "vertical speed was unstable after take off."

jcountry 03-10-2019 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 2779024)
Another 737-8MAX. Hope it isn’t the same issue as before.
Boeing is gonna have a serious problem to wrangle.
Article states unstable and excessive vertical speeds.

Sad day indeed.

Well, designing a system which relies on only one input, and then hiding its functionality was kind of a big problem.

Boeing has been messed up ever since it relocated the HQ

marcal 03-10-2019 08:33 AM

Not that this is the reason but it’s being reported that the FO had 200 hours. IMO no one with 200 hours should be in a control seat of a transport jet.

Adlerdriver 03-10-2019 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2779101)
Well, designing a system which relies on only one input, and then hiding its functionality was kind of a big problem.

Boeing has been messed up ever since it relocated the HQ

Not defending Boeing’s lack of comm on whatever changed on the max in relation to previous models. But there is a proven, Boeing recommended solution to a runaway trim or stab issue that really hasn’t changed for any of the Boeing models currently flying. Turn off the stab cutout switches. If pilots fail to accomplish that step in their corrective process, then isn’t whether Boeing did a poor job communicating about a system change kind of a red herring?

Back2future 03-10-2019 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2779135)
Not defending Boeing’s lack of comm on whatever changed on the max in relation to previous models. But there is a proven, Boeing recommended solution to a runaway trim or stab issue that really hasn’t changed for any of the Boeing models currently flying. Turn off the stab cutout switches. If pilots fail to accomplish that step in their corrective process, then isn’t whether Boeing did a poor job communicating about a system change kind of a red herring?

You don't think these guys new about the system at this point? To further your analogy Airbus didn't need to fix their pitot system; they just needed to better educate the pilots on handling the situation.

trip 03-10-2019 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 2779133)
Not that this is the reason but it’s being reported that the FO had 200 hours. IMO no one with 200 hours should be in a control seat of a transport jet.

How do you get into the right seat of a airliner with 200 hrs?
As a pax I would want to know if my F/O had a 200 hrs TT.


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