JohnBurke

You're really coming to the wrong place for that. Your enquiries are disingenuous and inappropriate.

Hundreds of death?

Sure you're not a russian bot?

Excargodog

Biases up front: I own about 100 shares of Boeing outright and some amount more through my Index-500 mutual funds in my IRA and 401k.

My BIGGEST concern with Boeing right now is that the USAF has TWICE stopped delivery of new tankers because of the FOD that workers left in them. Shavings, drill leavings, and damaged (and new) rivets and fasteners are bad enough since these can migrate into the wiring, but TOOLS? How did that happen? And given my USAF background I know that the USAF maintenance ops aren't all that pristine, so if acceptance has been stopped TWICE with a logistics general personally going up to PAE at least once to try to convince the locals to - literally - clean up their act on an aircraft the USAF has needed desperately to replace 50+ year old KC-135s, that points to a fairly serious breakdown in quality control and/or work ethic.

One might recall the history of how the Boeing 707 really got its start. The 'smart money' was that the public wasn't really ready to see passenger planes without propellers and that the prophet Lockheed Electra was the next generation of Commercial passenger aircraft after the DC 6 and 7. But there were two fatal mishaps - in flight breakups - due to harmonic resonance between the props and the engine mount spar. The engineering fix was easy, but the PR damage was done. While the airframe went on to great success with the Navy and still flys as the P-3, it didn't become the next generation of airliners and the 707 did.

Clearly, if the pilots of the recent 737 mishaps had actually followed appropriate procedures - especially keeping to a more reasonable airspeed - these mishaps likely would have been avoided. But just as clearly, Boeing needs to get their act together. If they don't, the future of commercial passenger aviation may not be Boeing.

rickair7777

Boeing may need to better account for the LCD in the global pilot community. Just because their in-house stable of yeager-esque test pilots could have easily pulled it off, doesn't mean everyone could. Airbus probably does a better job of that, since they have a different cultural expectation of exactly what a pilot is. That's baked into the bus. The 737 was and is a real man's airplane, from a bygone era.

BobZ

Uh oh. Now you did it. A real mans airplane? Lol! Girls fly it too....

WHACKMASTER

Don’t forget about those that are “questioning”. Mustn’t leave those out you insensitive cretin.

atpcliff

Does Boeing want to sell it's aircraft overseas, or only to the US carriers? Almost all foreign carriers have Cadet programs, where they hire kids with no experience and train them to start as First (or Second) Officers in their passenger fleets. The US now requires an ATP, which is typically 1000-1500 flight hours, to be a First Officer. EVERYWHERE else it is the same as the US used to be. Only a Commercial License is required, which typically takes around 250 hours of training to be a First Officer.

If Boeing wants to sell their aircraft to foreign airlines, then they need to make their aircraft flyable by the foreign pilots.

If you ask me, Boeing is in serious trouble, because of actions and procedures, that are being revealed because of the Max crashes.

JohnBurke

The only thing the ethiopian crew had to do was follow the procedure that's been in place for over four decades and exercise basic airmanship.

There was nothing in either the Lionair or Ethiopian mishaps that required superior airmanship, and the neither captain was a 200 hour pilot.

Firefighter

Why should boeing be responsible for any of that? Don’t pilots go to school? Or are they just hired off the streets and Boeing trains them fully? If so, shouldn’t that be airlines responsibility? Luckily it doesn’t work like that. Airlines should be responsible for safety, which includes training their own pilots. Ethiopia air is cheap, and it costed lives. They were okay with signing the pilots out of the course for the MCAS. They also did not follow proper procedure. As they were suppose to leave switches out for the remainder of flight.

Air Lion was caused by a component that maintenance failed to fix 3 times. After the last flight, you’d think the airline would have some common sense to ground the aircraft. But they didn’t, instead they put it back in the air to fly once more, to make more money. And it killed people. These airliners are getting away scotch free to continue there cheap ways and it’s disgusting.

atpcliff

If Boeing upper management has the same perspective as you do, they are doomed...