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Old 05-06-2019, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
You haven't seen the full video - they weren't visibly on fire before they bounced the first landing and POI'd the plane to the ground, bursting into flames.
The aircraft caught fire AFTER the bounced landing due to the engines/tail slamming on the ground. The FO said they followed all procedures for the initial emergency. According to the CA the botched landing was caused due to their gross weight way above landing weight and loss of full flight control authority. After the bounce I’m sure the only intention was to just keep the aircraft on the ground in whatever way they could. As of now it appears the entire crew did the best they could for what they were delt. With only the fwd exits usable, the large death toll was most likely a result of passenger congestion due to grabbing luggage, which is very unfortunate, but this happens everywhere and like others have said this should be considered a criminal act.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
That would never happen here.

But it might possibly happen in Russia...
If 40 people burned alive in the US it absolutely could.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
With only the fwd exits usable, the large death toll was most likely a result of passenger congestion due to grabbing luggage, which is very unfortunate, but this happens everywhere and like others have said this should be considered a criminal act.
Several other scenarios just as likely, like animals and baggage blocking aisle egress, electronics cords snagging people, confusing, wrong or conflicting orders given by FAs, non-able bodied persons seated where they blocked others. Not that the luggage isn't a factor and maybe it is the biggest factor, but there's a hell of a lot more that could have been going on and we just don't know.

Hopefully if it happened in the US, at least the families of the dead would have civil suits against the living that took baggage, criminal charges would be better, but barring that...
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:21 AM
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https://www.justia.com/criminal/offe...-manslaughter/
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Old 05-07-2019, 07:46 AM
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With the amount of smoke that fire generated, I bet most of the passengers in the back were incapacitated by the smoke before any of the forward doors were even opened.
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot View Post
If 40 people burned alive in the US it absolutely could.
Never ever happen. Entitled selfishness is a constitutionaly guaranteed right.

The accused would simply claim they were too traumatized to know what they were doing. No jury would convict. Too much to expect pax to remember the safety instructions, assuming they even listened in the first place.
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:05 AM
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I searched for, but could not find, the video of the cabin evac of the AA 767 in Chicago in 2016.

People were casually getting luggage, seemingly no panic, and taking the time to video the whole thing.

Never mind that the right engine had disintegrated, sending a turbine disk THROUGH the wing, with gushing fuel and a raging fire that melted the wing (the tip was touching the runway).

The flames were to the top of the tail. They could see it through the windows.

And they stopped for luggage.

Oh...when they went down the slides, THEN they got concerned and outraged. Most ran to the edge of the grass....and stopped to make phone calls.

If someone can find the link....please post.

The 777 in Dubai? Same thing.
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There are reports they were NORDO.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot View Post
If 40 people burned alive in the US it absolutely could.
No, people would sue and somehow find the airline, aircraft manufacturer, and FAA at fault for current policies and procedures.

I’m case you can’t tell, my post has the same as Rick’s.

Satire/sarcasm, tinged with a high probability of happening in this day and age.
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr View Post
No, people would sue and somehow find the airline, aircraft manufacturer, and FAA at fault for current policies and procedures.

I’m case you can’t tell, my post has the same as Rick’s.

Satire/sarcasm, tinged with a high probability of happening in this day and age.
"I blame FAA and the plane manufacturer for the failed evacuation. Oh, and here's a selfie and a video to prove it!"
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