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Old 08-15-2019, 01:24 PM
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Everyone safe...jet burned to the ground. Went off the departure end.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dale-earnh...HuXF24mHlFAip8
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landing halfway down a 4500' runway would do that...huge phail in airmanship if those reports are true.

Will be interested to get the final facts.

The crash is already included in the Elizabethton Airport Wikipedia link. Wow...
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Why do these famous guys always have the worst luck with jets? Or the worst pilots? He’s lucky to have gotten out alive.
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Why do these famous guys always have the worst luck with jets? Or the worst pilots? He’s lucky to have gotten out alive.
Reads like your asking the question in a rhetorical way. Present your thesis after your comprehensive study.
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This guy did a pretty darn good job in the initial NTSB briefing:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1dRKZmYPydVxB

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Firm landing, bounced twice, one gear collapsed. Apparently did not land long. So much for eye witness reports about landing halfway down the runway....
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared View Post
This guy did a pretty darn good job in the initial NTSB briefing:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1dRKZmYPydVxB

TL/DR:

Firm landing, bounced twice, one gear collapsed. Apparently did not land long. So much for eye witness reports about landing halfway down the runway....
Maybe those eyewitnesses considering the beginning of the landing as starting once the airplane stopped bouncing down the runway.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Maybe those eyewitnesses considering the beginning of the landing as starting once the airplane stopped bouncing down the runway.
Well that is when braking could begin.
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Originally Posted by cgtpilot View Post
Why do these famous guys always have the worst luck with jets? Or the worst pilots? He’s lucky to have gotten out alive.

I know nothing about these pilots or this accident, and am not making any judgements.

That said, there are a lot of rich people who hire their friends or "friends of friends" as pilots rather than the most qualified.
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Did an investigation several years ago of one of our fighters that crashed near a lake with dozens of witnesses. Asked, “Was the jet on fire or smoking as it was coming down?”

Half of them “Oh yes! Big black smoke trail and lots of fire and noise!”

The other half “ Oh no! It just kind of came down with no smoke or fire or anything. Real quiet.”
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared View Post
This guy did a pretty darn good job in the initial NTSB briefing:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1dRKZmYPydVxB

TL/DR:

Firm landing, bounced twice, one gear collapsed. Apparently did not land long. So much for eye witness reports about landing halfway down the runway....
Bouncing twice should have been a reason for a go around. Especially on a short runway. Bouncing on ones landing gear can
Make it collapse.
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