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Old 08-15-2019, 05:31 AM
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Default Airbus 321 lands in cornfield. All survive.

It's all over the place...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/w...h-landing.html

MOSCOW — A Russian passenger jet crash-landed into a cornfield shortly after takeoff from Moscow on Thursday, injuring 23 people, but remarkably, no one was killed, according to Russian media reports and the national aviation regulator Rosaviatsia.

Ural Airlines Flight 178 collided with a flock of gulls just after leaving Zhukovsky International Airport near Moscow, severely damaging the aircraft’s engines and forcing it to make the emergency landing less than a mile from the airport.

“Thanks to the professionalism of pilots and the crew, there were no serious injuries and damages among the passengers,” Russia’s Health Ministry said in a statement.

The airliner, an Airbus A321, had 226 passengers and seven crew members onboard and was bound for Simferopol in Crimea, Rosaviatsia said in a statement. An investigation into the incident has begun.
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It's all over the place...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/w...h-landing.html

MOSCOW — A Russian passenger jet crash-landed into a cornfield shortly after takeoff from Moscow on Thursday, injuring 23 people, but remarkably, no one was killed, according to Russian media reports and the national aviation regulator Rosaviatsia.

Ural Airlines Flight 178 collided with a flock of gulls just after leaving Zhukovsky International Airport near Moscow, severely damaging the aircraft’s engines and forcing it to make the emergency landing less than a mile from the airport.

“Thanks to the professionalism of pilots and the crew, there were no serious injuries and damages among the passengers,” Russia’s Health Ministry said in a statement.
This Captain should immediately chime in on whether Boeing 737 MAX pilots need addition simulator training. He's exactly as qualified as Sully to comment in the media.
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Nice job crew.
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Default Ural A321 “Miracle on the CornField”

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Applause to the crew and another brownie point for the “ToughBus”.
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This Captain should immediately chime in on whether Boeing 737 MAX pilots need addition simulator training. He's exactly as qualified as Sully to comment in the media.
Didn’t Sullenberg have about 10,000 hours in the 737?
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
This Captain should immediately chime in on whether Boeing 737 MAX pilots need addition simulator training. He's exactly as qualified as Sully to comment in the media.
For a pilot who’s in charge of hundreds of lives to say he doesn’t want additional training to help him/her keep those lives safe. Maybe you’re part of the problem.

A 10 minute CBT is never as good as hands on training.

I get why companies are against it , but why would a pilot oppose such training ? It won’t be something you’re graded on or pass fail.

Sully is 100% qualified to talk about the needs of the industry , he’s been in the industry long enough (probably longer than you) and suffered one of the worst case scenarios ever presented to a pilot.
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Would you airbus guys have landed with the gear up?
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Would you airbus guys have landed with the gear up?
Not sure if you'd have time to sort out APU and HYD's. If you tried non-normal extension and it didn't work you'd be screwed. No gear > partial gear.

Also might consider the direction of the corn rows and whether we could land with the grain (pun intended). If you have time for that, which is doubtful.
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Not sure if you'd have time to sort out APU and HYD's. If you tried non-normal extension and it didn't work you'd be screwed. No gear > partial gear.

Also might consider the direction of the corn rows and whether we could land with the grain (pun intended). If you have time for that, which is doubtful.
In addition, I would be concerned about the damage caused by landing gear being sheared during an off airport landing.
As a side note, I’ve had pilots ask why I leave my shoulder belts on until at least 10,000’. It’s for stuff like this. The last thing I want to worry about during an emergency below 10,000’ is redoing my shoulder harnesses.
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Yeah I’ll never understand the guys that go ‘click’ right after rotation as they reach for the gear lever.
Shoulder belts till 10k at least.
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