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Old 12-07-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by trip View Post
The youngest was 7. If your willing to put 12 in a 11 seater then all bets are off. Senseless loss. RIP.

Kathryn's Report: Pilatus PC-12/47E, N56KJ: Fatal accident occurred November 30, 2019 near Chamberlain Municipal Airport (9V9), Brule County, South Dakota
It's definitely a hint of possible careless attitude but the pax load alone probably did not cause an overweight or out of CG condition. 2 kids + 10 adults doesn't weigh more than 11 adults.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:55 AM
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Yes it was close, most likely over, by itself not a major contributor. If the aircraft was contaminated it certainly could be.

PC12 useful load> Approximately 3600 lbs.
We know he bought 150 gals of jet.> 1005
Assume he had at least 50 onboard >335
3600-1005-335=2260/11=205 @ 190avg weight that leaves 15lbs per person for guns, gear etc.

The near pristine prop blade conditions are certainly unusual and indicative of not producing power at impact. Why?

You can see when you zoom up the picture the horizontal tail has been pulled out of the snow and inspected closely, is that ice along the leading edge or just frost from laying out overnight?
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Old 12-07-2019, 02:06 PM
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The pressure to go can be crazy as a single pilot, sometimes even in a crew if your fellow pilot starts to second guess your decisions.
Part 135 you have a little backup in your Opspecs and hopefully your CP/DO.
I once had a pax trying to convince me to go because he called a pilot at the planned destination airport and “he said it was fine”.
I didn’t really dig into the pax on this flight but all three family members working at the same business and probably having to be back at similar times because of something that can never be postponed or delayed.
That picture of the tail reminds me of another story.
We’re in NJ someplace and we called and asked the airplane to be put in the hangar overnight. Nobody bothered to tell us the plane was covered in 4-5 inches of snow and the hangar wasn’t heated.
We figured we didn’t need deice as the airplane was hangared.
We show up and the snow is frozen solid. I couldn’t brush it off or even scrape it off.
Deice truck out of gas and it took 2 hrs to heat the fluid.
In any case that tail looks like it’s got frozen snow on it behind the boots.
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:58 PM
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An update from the investigation.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

National Transportation Safety Board
Aviation Accident Preliminary Report

Location: Chamberlain, SD Accident Number: CEN20FA022
Date & Time: 11/30/2019, 1233 CST Registration: N56KJ
Aircraft: Pilatus PC12 Injuries: 9 Fatal, 3 Serious
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General Aviation - Personal

On November 30, 2019, at 1233 central standard time, a Pilatus PC-12/47E airplane, N56KJ,
was destroyed during an impact with terrain near the Chamberlain Municipal Airport, (9V9),
Chamberlain South Dakota. The pilot and 8 passengers were fatally injured, and three
passengers were seriously injured. The airplane was registered to Conrad & Bischoff, Inc. and
operated by the pilot as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 personal flight.
Instrument meteorological conditions prevailed, and the flight was operated on an instrument
flight rules flight plan. The flight originated from 9V9 shortly before the accident and was
destined for Idaho Falls Regional Airport (IDA), Idaho Falls, Idaho.

The pilot and passengers flew from IDA to 9V9 the day before the accident, arriving at 9V9
about 0927. At 0936, the pilot purchased 150 gallons of fuel from the automated fuel pump at
9V9. The airplane remained parked outside on the ramp and the group stayed at a local lodge
for the night. The following morning, the pilot and one passenger were driven to the airport.
Witnesses reported that they worked removing the snow and ice from the airplane for
approximately 3 hours, and were joined by the remaining passengers shortly before the
accident flight. The witnesses reported the visibility was limited by snow at the time of the
accident.

The pilot contacted Minneapolis Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC) at 1224 and
requested an instrument flight rules (IFR) clearance from 9V9 to IDA. The pilot advised he
planned to depart from runway 31 and would be ready in 5 minutes. At 1227, Minneapolis
ARTCC issued an IFR clearance to the pilot with a void time of 1235. No radio communications
were received from the pilot, and radar contact was never established. About 1240,
Minneapolis ARTCC contacted the airport manager at 9V9 who advised that the airplane
departed about 10 minutes earlier. Minneapolis ARTCC subsequently contacted the Brule
County emergency dispatch center and advised them of the overdue aircraft. An alert notice
(ALNOT) was issued.

A witness located about 1/2-mile northwest of the airport reported hearing the airplane takeoff.
It was cloudy and snowing at the time. He was not able to see the airplane but noted that it
entered a left turned based on the sound. He heard the airplane for about 4 or 5 seconds and
the engine seemed to be "running good" until the sound stopped.

The property owner discovered the accident site about 1357. The site was located
approximately 3/4 mile west of the airport in a dormant corn field. The debris path was
approximately 85 ft long and was oriented on a 179° heading. The engine was separated from
the firewall. The left wing was separated from the fuselage at the root. The engine and left wing
were both located in the debris path. The main wreckage consisted of the fuselage, right wing
and empennage.

Preliminary data recovered from the Lightweight Data Recorder (LDR) installed on the
airplane revealed that the accident takeoff began from runway 31 about 1231:58. The airplane
lifted off 30 seconds later and immediately entered a left turn; the airplane rolled left to about
10° during the takeoff rotation. The roll decreased to about 5° left as the airplane climbed
through about 170 ft. above ground level (agl), and then reversed to about 5° right before
rolling left again, reaching 64° left at the airplane's peak altitude of approximately 460 ft agl.
The airplane then entered a descent that continued until impact. The airspeed varied between
89 and 97 knots (kts) during the initial climb; however, it decayed to approximately 80 kts as
the airplane altitude peaked at 460 ft agl and the roll angle reached 64° left. The stall warning
and stick shaker became active approximately 1 second after liftoff. The stick pusher became
active about 15 seconds after liftoff. All three continued intermittently for the duration of the
flight. The data ended about 1233:00. In addition to parametric data, the LDR also recorded
cockpit audio and the NTSB will convene a group of technical experts to produce a transcript of
recorded sound.

At 1235, the Automated Weather Observing System (AWOS) located at 9V9 recorded overcast
clouds at 500 ft agl and 1/2-mile visibility in moderate snow, with wind from 020° at 6 kts. The
temperature and dew point were both 1°C, and the altimeter setting was 29.30 inches of
mercury. A review of the 5-minute observations recorded at 1215 and 1220 indicated light snow
with 3/4-mile visibilities. At 1225, the observation included 1/2-mile visibility in light snow.
From 1230 until 1310, the observations included 1/2-mile visibilities in moderate snow. Winds
were from the north-northeast (010° to 020°) at 7 kts or less during that entire time period.
Freezing rain and snow were observed in the vicinity of 9V9 the previous afternoon and
overnight before the accident flight.

Aircraft and Owner/Operator Information
Aircraft Make: Pilatus Registration: N56KJ
Model/Series: PC12 47E Aircraft Category: Airplane
Amateur Built: No
Operator: On file
Operating Certificate(s)
Held: None

Meteorological Information and Flight Plan
Conditions at Accident Site: Instrument Conditions Condition of Light: Day
Observation Facility, Elevation: 9V9, 1696 ft msl Observation Time: 1235 CST
Distance from Accident Site: 1 Nautical Miles Temperature/Dew Point: 1°C / 1°C
Lowest Cloud Condition: Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 6 knots / , 20°
Lowest Ceiling: Overcast / 500 ft agl Visibility: 0.5 Miles
Altimeter Setting: 29.3 inches Hg Type of Flight Plan Filed: IFR
Departure Point: Chamberlain, SD (9V9) Destination: Idaho Falls, ID (IDA)

Wreckage and Impact Information
Crew Injuries: 1 Fatal Aircraft Damage: Destroyed
Passenger Injuries: 8 Fatal, 3 Serious Aircraft Fire: None
Ground Injuries: N/A Aircraft Explosion: None
Total Injuries: 9 Fatal, 3 Serious Latitude, Longitude: 43.765556, -99.337222
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Old 12-19-2019, 02:08 AM
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They never had a chance.
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:49 PM
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This aircraft had the Executive 6+2 configuration. NOT the commuter config that SeaPort used to have. 8 in the back and 2 up front. 10 seats total. 2 human beings who were required to have seats, did not have seats. There is a slight possibility that the were under gross at takeoff, but with guns, gear, and birds, there’s a really good chance they were beyond the aft limit. This isn’t Monday morning quarterbacking, just facts.
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Originally Posted by Brickhut View Post
This aircraft had the Executive 6+2 configuration. NOT the commuter config that SeaPort used to have. 8 in the back and 2 up front. 10 seats total. 2 human beings who were required to have seats, did not have seats. There is a slight possibility that the were under gross at takeoff, but with guns, gear, and birds, there’s a really good chance they were beyond the aft limit. This isn’t Monday morning quarterbacking, just facts.
You didn’t mention the ice.
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
You didn’t mention the ice.
Yeah, this part is sickening:

The stall warning and stick shaker became active approximately 1 second after liftoff.
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Old 12-22-2019, 09:32 PM
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PC12 carries a lot of load. Boots are run by bleed air, and they carry a huge penalty on performance.
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Old 12-23-2019, 01:50 AM
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Boots don’t deice the rest of the wing or tail.
They allegedly spend 3hrs trying to deice the plane.
If that was freezing rain it was probably clear ice.
Hard to see and even harder to remove.
That plus taking off in half a mile and blowing snow from a non towered airport.
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