Asiana 747 descends to low on approach
04-09-2020, 12:53 PM
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Asiana 747 descends to low on approach
https://simpleflying.com/asiana-hong-kong-low-approach/
You'd think the crew might notice something was wrong when you're 800AGL 4 miles from the runway.
You'd think the crew might notice something was wrong when you're 800AGL 4 miles from the runway.
04-09-2020, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
https://simpleflying.com/asiana-hong-kong-low-approach/
You'd think the crew might notice something was wrong when you're 800AGL 4 miles from the runway.
You'd think the crew might notice something was wrong when you're 800AGL 4 miles from the runway.
https://avherald.com/h?article=4d1e782d&opt=0
04-09-2020, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 32Drvr
Always, ALWAYS check the glide slope crossing altitude.
04-10-2020, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit
And study your systems! Know when the A/Ts will “wake up” from the Arm mode; know when they will and will not provide Alpha Floor protection.
04-10-2020, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Sure. You could get all smart on that stuff. No harm in that. But, how about a novel idea: Maybe just fly the aircraft using stick (yoke), rudder and throttles like a pilot. When autothrottles "wake up" or provide "alpha floor" is just a BS crutch needed by someone who is dependent on automation. If you're on approach and waiting for what the throttles should be doing based on your systems knowledge, you're probably behind. Either turn them off regularly enough so you don't depend on them or have your hands on them and monitor your airspeed as if they're off, making manual adjustments as necessary. Then when they're going to wake up doesn't matter because your a pilot again.
04-10-2020, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Hand-flying is an intentional disregard for safety.
Either way. I was responding to Perfinit who clearly was preaching to the majority here. That happens to be US pilots. So, I really don't care what asinine, CYA, "we hope the automation makes up for the deficiency in skill of our pilots" policy might be in effect at foreign airline X. My point stands when made in the company of the usual suspects here on APC.
04-10-2020, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
You can't actually believe this, right? Are you just repeating the stupidity that is the source of the problem in the first place at foreign airlines.
But some foriegn airlines sure believe it, and who knows if they never practice (not allowed to) maybe hand-flying is pretty dangerous for them.
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