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rickair7777 04-29-2020 05:26 AM

Don't Everybody Thank Me at Once...
 
Han Solo can't stay out of the news...

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...r-plane-runway

TiredSoul 04-29-2020 06:51 AM

Time to start flying out of non towered airports.

Generic Pilot 04-29-2020 11:30 AM

https://i.imgur.com/FiBjX.gif
Seriously, it's not news, no one cares.

AirBear 05-01-2020 07:00 PM

VAS Aviation has the LiveATC audio up. The "Hold Short" didn't sound garbled to me, don't know why he didn't get it.

https://youtu.be/nU0BmAWtz5c

FlyJSH 05-05-2020 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by AirBear (Post 3046645)
VAS Aviation has the LiveATC audio up. The "Hold Short" didn't sound garbled to me, don't know why he didn't get it.

https://youtu.be/nU0BmAWtz5c


It wasn't garbled. But if it had been, would any of us proceed without confirming? Usually I am one of the "don't hang the pilots; let the investigation take care of it" guys. But, geez, that cat has gone through most of his lives.

TiredSoul 05-05-2020 12:57 PM

This sounds like he was distracted by something else.
Cirrus on the same freq cleared to land.
When holding short don’t you sit there if not facing final at least looking at final.
Maybe he was writing on his knee board, in any case loss of situational awareness.

klondike 05-08-2020 07:02 AM

HanSolo is a menace to aviation safety.

We mere average citizens would have had our certificates revoked by now.

TommyDevito 05-08-2020 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by klondike (Post 3051625)
HanSolo is a menace to aviation safety.

Really? Care to share?


Originally Posted by klondike (Post 3051625)
We mere average citizens would have had our certificates revoked by now.

Really? What has Ford done that deserves revocation?

JonGoodsell764 05-08-2020 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by TommyDevito (Post 3051771)
Really? Care to share?



Really? What has Ford done that deserves revocation?

You mean aside from crashing onto a golf course, almost hitting an airliner at SNA and now this?

rickair7777 05-08-2020 11:01 AM

Yeah I don't think he's particularly bad or reckless, just gets attention whenever he does something that would end quietly in ASRS / compliance culture for anyone else.

And he can afford to fly warbirds which were built with wartime expediency (vs. inherent safety) as the priority.

JonGoodsell764 05-08-2020 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3051775)
And he can afford to fly warbirds which were built with wartime expediency (vs. inherent safety) as the priority.

Flying warbirds has nothing to do with poor airmanship and not following ATC instruction?

TommyDevito 05-08-2020 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 3051774)
You mean aside from crashing onto a golf course, almost hitting an airliner at SNA and now this?

So an engine failure in a single engine antique airplane, due to mechanical failure, is grounds for revocation? Sure about that? I looked all through the 2150.3C and couldn't find that. Also couldn't find it in the regulations (14 CFR and 49USC)

Maybe you could help me out here?

The SNA incident was investigated by the FAA and the appropriate measures were taken IAW the 8900.1 and the 2150.3C. Again, nothing called for revocation in that incident either.

TheFly 05-08-2020 01:01 PM

I have a bad feeling about this...

John Carr 05-08-2020 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 3051839)
I have a bad feeling about this...

Punch it chewy

TiredSoul 05-08-2020 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by TommyDevito (Post 3051802)
So an engine failure in a single engine antique airplane, due to mechanical failure, is grounds for revocation? Sure about that? I looked all through the 2150.3C and couldn't find that. Also couldn't find it in the regulations (14 CFR and 49USC)

Maybe you could help me out here?

The SNA incident was investigated by the FAA and the appropriate measures were taken IAW the 8900.1 and the 2150.3C. Again, nothing called for revocation in that incident either.

Wasnt that maintenance related with a carburetor that wasn’t overhauled for 40+ years

TheFly 05-08-2020 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3051930)
Punch it chewy

Who you calling scruffy looking?

TommyDevito 05-08-2020 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3051941)
Wasnt that maintenance related with a carburetor that wasn’t overhauled for 40+ years

Don't recall.

Was there a requirement to overhaul it?

Excargodog 05-08-2020 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3051941)
Wasnt that maintenance related with a carburetor that wasn’t overhauled for 40+ years

Main metering jet on the carburetor was loose and unscrewed itself on the takeoff. H€||, even I might not have caught that on the preflight. :D

So when the engine quit he didn’t stall the aircraft in a panic and found an open spot on a golf course where he could put it down without hurting anyone on the ground or killing himself. I’d give him a fair on that one.

Landing on the taxiway.... not good, but that taxiway is also where he routinely landed his helicopter, so there was a habit pattern issue too. Not good, but he’s not the first. And he didn’t do it at night with a load of pax in back like a certain regional did at Pullman Wa a year or two ago. And that crew of two did not have the excuse that they often landed their helicopter there.

https://youtu.be/vgLYGEj-D7Q

And at least he DID get it down without damage or hurting anyone on a paved surface. Not something a couple pilots at a regional flying into Presque Isle Maine can claim.

https://i.ibb.co/SwTgRNp/49-B7694-F-...10-FCFD439.jpg




As for runway incursions, I guarantee they are underreported:

https://i.ibb.co/WnT1nD4/EC0-D886-D-...751-B1-B25.png

The OTHER FBO on the field where I used to CFI had a LOT of foreign students whose command of the English language was....well, they HAD no command of the English language. If the tower had actually reported every runway incursion these guys made, the above numbers would be bigger. It was at least a weekly event. I averaged a go-around (or heavy braking on the active) probably every three months my entire time as a CFI.

John Carr 05-08-2020 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 3051945)
Who you calling scruffy looking?

Don't get cocky kid.

Excargodog 05-08-2020 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 3051945)
Who you calling scruffy looking?

All of us, since my idiot governor has locked down all the barber shops...

yet somehow, the ‘official’ barber in the state capital is open by appointment for the politicians...

John Carr 05-08-2020 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3052107)
All of us, since my idiot governor has locked down all the barber shops...

yet somehow, the ‘official’ barber in the state capital is open by appointment for the politicians...

Everything's perfectly alright now. We're fine. We are all fine... here... now. Thank you. How're you?

METO Guido 05-09-2020 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Generic Pilot (Post 3044852)
https://i.imgur.com/FiBjX.gif
Seriously, it's not news, no one cares.

Minus the star, he's right, no story. Where were you in '62?
https://youtu.be/z2OoxzYqgNY

rickair7777 05-09-2020 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3052107)
All of us, since my idiot governor has locked down all the barber shops...

yet somehow, the ‘official’ barber in the state capital is open by appointment for the politicians...

All animals are equal...

John Carr 05-09-2020 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3052339)
All animals are equal...

Well played.

ShyGuy 05-10-2020 11:29 PM

[takes another look at calendar to ensure the year is 2020, not 1984]


[takes black sharpie, crosses out 2020, writes 1984]

cougar 05-11-2020 10:27 PM

Maybe he should only be dual instead of Solo...


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