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stevecv 08-03-2020 12:26 PM

Reporting of low flying aircraft...
 
When somebody calls the FSDO and reports a low flying aircraft, what are the consequences to the PIC? Just yesterday I was told by a family member there was a Beech Baron flying well below 500' over a very large neighborhood. The class B airspace begins at 3000' above them. ADS-B from FlightAware also shows a ground speed of just about 250mph, which means they also broke the speed limit.

If they are reported what does the FSDO do? How much trouble is the PIC in? Yes we have the N number.

Beech Dude 08-03-2020 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by stevecv (Post 3104359)
When somebody calls the FSDO and reports a low flying aircraft, what are the consequences to the PIC? Just yesterday I was told by a family member there was a Beech Baron flying well below 500' over a very large neighborhood. The class B airspace begins at 3000' above them. ADS-B from FlightAware also shows a ground speed of just about 250mph, which means they also broke the speed limit.

If they are reported what does the FSDO do? How much trouble is the PIC in? Yes we have the N number.

That's going to be up to the FSDO on what they interpret from data, reports, etc. But just from what you have, he/she is looking at multiple violations. Below 1K over congested, 200+ below Bravo, plus PIC operating in a reckless manner...unless that guy/gal had an emergency going on, I'd say they're looking at definite certificate action.

usmc-sgt 08-03-2020 01:15 PM

Vne is below 225 and max cruise is somewhere around 200. At least he wasn’t likely speeding.

rickair7777 08-03-2020 02:48 PM

If this is anywhere near the southern border, sounds like he may have been committing even worse offenses, felonies of interest to the DEA.

If that's the case, the plane will have been recently stolen.

Elevation 08-03-2020 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by stevecv (Post 3104359)
When somebody calls the FSDO and reports a low flying aircraft, what are the consequences to the PIC? Just yesterday I was told by a family member there was a Beech Baron flying well below 500' over a very large neighborhood. The class B airspace begins at 3000' above them. ADS-B from FlightAware also shows a ground speed of just about 250mph, which means they also broke the speed limit.

If they are reported what does the FSDO do? How much trouble is the PIC in? Yes we have the N number.

Just my two cents here, I'm nobody connected or special.

I'd advise against reporting this. You didn't observe this airplane. A family member did. While the airplane was low enough to have the tail numbers readable from the ground, it was high enough for your family members to write down and notice the registration. You also don't know what was going on with that airplane or pilot.

Reporting your own experiences into ASRS or ASAP will achieve more, in my opinion.

stevecv 08-04-2020 03:09 PM

I wouldn't report it for them but I did tell them about how reporting works with the local FSDO. I left it up to them.

I was also told they did multiple passes at very low level and also a "steep turn."

Loose an engine at 300' and VMC roll it right into my parents house- that's where my mind went. I just cant justify behavior like that. If they can explain to the controlling authority why they were doing what they were doing, then fine!

Gone Flying 08-04-2020 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by stevecv (Post 3104991)
I wouldn't report it for them but I did tell them about how reporting works with the local FSDO. I left it up to them.

I was also told they did multiple passes at very low level and also a "steep turn."

Loose an engine at 300' and VMC roll it right into my parents house- that's where my mind went. I just cant justify behavior like that. If they can explain to the controlling authority why they were doing what they were doing, then fine!

thought u said they were going over 200KIAS...gonna be hard to VMC roll at that speed😁😁😁

on a real note how much do you trust their judgement that they were at 400’ not 1000’ (or do u have flightaware data)

captive apple 08-04-2020 06:29 PM

Your behavior is part of our national identity of the last decades.

stevecv 08-05-2020 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3105030)
thought u said they were going over 200KIAS...gonna be hard to VMC roll at that speed😁😁😁

on a real note how much do you trust their judgement that they were at 400’ not 1000’ (or do u have flightaware data)

Flight aware shows 248mph. Just making a point about being so low and having no time to deal with an emergency. I completely get what you're saying though.

stevecv 08-05-2020 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3105089)
Your behavior is part of our national identity of the last decades.

Your reaction is telling of your attitude towards recklessness.To imply that I am some sort of tattletale snowflake says a whole lot more about you than it does about me. Next.

Im guessing you thought the same about the people who recorded video of Roy Halladay before his accident into Tampa Bay?
Heres a link for you incase you're not familiar https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/art...-roy-halladay/


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