737 Pilots Struggled to Control Jet (MEL AP)
09-19-2020, 08:08 PM
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737 Pilots Struggled to Control Jet (MEL AP)
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Scary. I'm an advocate of using the autopilot to reduce workload but then I spent a fair amount of time flying 1960's and 1970's era aircraft so I was fine hand flying.
Scary. I'm an advocate of using the autopilot to reduce workload but then I spent a fair amount of time flying 1960's and 1970's era aircraft so I was fine hand flying.
09-20-2020, 09:53 AM
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09-20-2020, 11:31 AM
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European puppy mill flight schools teaching programming and button jamming. The phrase "trust the automation" is most likely heard much more than let's do "another hand flown, raw data, non-precision again." Too many places are teaching automation first, then the bare, bare minimum of hand flying these days. It is becoming a crutch instead of a tool.
09-20-2020, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
European puppy mill flight schools teaching programming and button jamming. The phrase "trust the automation" is most likely heard much more than let's do "another hand flown, raw data, non-precision again." Too many places are teaching automation first, then the bare, bare minimum of hand flying these days. It is becoming a crutch instead of a tool.
09-20-2020, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
European puppy mill flight schools teaching programming and button jamming. The phrase "trust the automation" is most likely heard much more than let's do "another hand flown, raw data, non-precision again." Too many places are teaching automation first, then the bare, bare minimum of hand flying these days. It is becoming a crutch instead of a tool.
When hand flying an otherwise full-up jet without a flight director is a hairy deed that you use to regale your buddies over beers, you may want to take a good, hard look at your training.
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09-21-2020, 06:46 PM
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For those who have not seen Children of the Magenta, or what to refresh your memory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_GENu6aqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_GENu6aqg
09-22-2020, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
European puppy mill flight schools teaching programming and button jamming. The phrase "trust the automation" is most likely heard much more than let's do "another hand flown, raw data, non-precision again." Too many places are teaching automation first, then the bare, bare minimum of hand flying these days. It is becoming a crutch instead of a tool.
09-30-2020, 06:54 AM
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Non-puppy mill, non-european, locally grown and bred pilots, lowest cloud at 4700' agl, wind calm (in other words perfect VFR conditions). Who was talking about mastering the basics ?
Let's not pump our chest out too much shall we ?
Earnhardt Mishap
Non-puppy mill, non-european, locally grown and bred pilots, lowest cloud at 4700' agl, wind calm (in other words perfect VFR conditions). Who was talking about mastering the basics ?
Let's not pump our chest out too much shall we ?
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