Frontier deice incident BNA
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Frontier deice incident BNA
This, of course, could have killed a whole plane load of people. Someone needs to be locked up for awhile to think about the error of their ways.
https://onemileatatime.com/frontier-...ophic-deicing/
https://onemileatatime.com/frontier-...ophic-deicing/
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Practically speaking, how could any of us catch this before departing? At least in the plane I fly, there is no way I can get a good enough view of the wings to confirm they’re clean. We’re not trained to leave the cockpit and look out one of the windows. What else can we do other than put our trust in these de-ice crews?
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Practically speaking, how could any of us catch this before departing? At least in the plane I fly, there is no way I can get a good enough view of the wings to confirm they’re clean. We’re not trained to leave the cockpit and look out one of the windows. What else can we do other than put our trust in these de-ice crews?
is a “pre takeoff contamination check” not required before departure? It is at my airline.
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It is not required at any major airline if the deice crew has certified the aircraft free of all contaminants and the holdover time determined by the deice report has not been exceeded or voided by a precip change. It can be done at Delta for any reason if the flight crew feels it’s warranted.
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If you were unsure or the HOT had expired you did a “pre takeoff contamination check” where one of you went back, asked the people in the exit row to move, and visually inspect both wings from the exit row.
#9
Read the comments after that article, they’re ridiculous. I wonder if we’ll see similar here. Anywhere I’ve worked a visual inspection by the flight crew is only required if holdover is exceeded or the precip type/intensity changes.
We did do a pre-take off check from the cockpit during icing conditions regardless because a portion of the wing was visible, but left the cockpit for pre-take off contamination check only for the above conditions.
We did do a pre-take off check from the cockpit during icing conditions regardless because a portion of the wing was visible, but left the cockpit for pre-take off contamination check only for the above conditions.
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