Smyrna, TN private jet crashes into lake.
 

IMHO this screams spatial disorientation... :(

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hes-lake.htmlA small plane carrying Christian diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara, her husband and five other members of the Remnant Fellowship Church crashed into lake in Tennessee, with all passengers presumed dead on Saturday.

The Cessna C501 left from Smyrna Rutherford County Airport before it slammed into the water in Percy Priest Lake in Smyrna, Tennessee around at 10:53am shortly after take-off, officials said in a news release. The plane was bound for Palm Beach International Airport and it was not immediately clear who was piloting it.

Rutherford County officials had indicated earlier in the day that at least one person had died in the accident, though did not reveal who that passenger was.

In a 40 year old airplane.

SMH

Private aviation is at least as safe as airliners... if you're a billionaire and hire the right people.

If you try to go cheap, it's gets risky fast, but apparently the jet mystique clouds people's judgement.

As with the Mitsubishi it wasn’t the plane (mostly) it was the people buying them.
Almost jet speeds for piston prices.
Older airframes were on the market for $250-$300k.
You couldn’t buy a Baron for that kind of money.
Hey presto they start turning into lawn darts.

Source:
https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...sh/5272006001/

https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20210529-0

ATC Audio is here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JtLYEyH32ZU

Site shows airplane for sale and it’s equipment
https://www.hangar67.com/aircraft/19...itation-i/5695

If the FAA was correct stupid stuff like this is going to make insurance so expensive it's going to put a major damper on owner flown turbine equipment.

Joe Lara had the type rating. His medical was less than a year overdue, definite party foul but not necessarily a contributing factor, certainly not a smoking gun. Probably hints of a lax attitude, although who knows maybe he just forget (the airline always reminds me).

A type rating from March last year?
How much did he fly in the last 12 months?
180 days? 90 days?
Isn’t a single pilot rating designated as /s on the FAA website?

Did it count as single pilot with the other guy on board? Commercial ops would require some training for the SIC. Not sure about PPL ops. Also we don't know that the other pilot didn't have the basic SIC training, that would not show up on his cert so maybe he did.

Odd that there were no distress radio calls.

Party foul? Jesus take the yoke more like it.

Anyone know what the tone was that was going off in the background when they read back the heading assignment?

Igniters is what I'm hearing/reading from typed pilots.

Broncoliro has a YouTube video out. Things didn’t go well from the time they entered the clouds (1300 overcast). Exceeded VNE while turning on course, cleared to 15,000 MSL but apparently never made it quite to 3000 according to ADS-B data. Things went to poo quickly after VNE was exceeded.


https://youtu.be/UjJYD_0oDxk

Vne?

I know a 501 is barely a jet, but it's still a jet. :p

:o
OK, VMO, but it doesn’t matter what you call it, over 300 knots below 3000 MSL is a tad fast for a Cessna 501.

With 2000 hrs in C550 (same type) , I will confirm that was the ignitor noise bleeding through the radio.

Dan Gryder

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WgCS4vtlQNk

good

[filler for minimum character limit supercalafragilisticexpialadocious]

Thanks for providing a video that provides good information on the crash.