560XL+ 4 fatal Connecticut
09-07-2021, 07:32 AM
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Again, this looks very similar to the Oroville, CA crash. Both had "light" skid marks at the start of the takeoff, and heavy skid marks at the end of the runway. It seems that both these 560XL crews had brake applications during the takeoff roll.
09-07-2021, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Again, this looks very similar to the Oroville, CA crash. Both had "light" skid marks at the start of the takeoff, and heavy skid marks at the end of the runway. It seems that both these 560XL crews had brake applications during the takeoff roll.
09-13-2021, 07:06 PM
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Dan thinks the parking brake was on, and that the anti-skid did operate with parking brake applied, blames it on 91/135 "knuckleheads".
Doesn't explain if he confirmed that the anti-skid actually works with PB applied, also no way to know yet if the pilots set the brake or if it malfunctioned. Brakes do malfunction, ask me how I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7J6p7i9yNA
Doesn't explain if he confirmed that the anti-skid actually works with PB applied, also no way to know yet if the pilots set the brake or if it malfunctioned. Brakes do malfunction, ask me how I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7J6p7i9yNA
09-14-2021, 05:46 AM
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Dan’s suspect on the parking brake AND the anti-skid operating; never seen a plane the works that way. And it was a dry runway, wet or better yet, icy; I’d believe it, not dry and going that far AFTER departing the runway. I would believe the right seat panicking and applying the brakes while the pilot tries to go. Or, a messed up abort.
09-14-2021, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
I would believe the right seat panicking and applying the brakes while the pilot tries to go.
If I was going to do a unilateral abort with brakes, I'd pull the levers back too, or grab the master cutoffs if the other guy fought it.
09-14-2021, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Seems unlikely, both pilots obstinately making conflicting control inputs all the way down the runway, both knowing it's going to kill them?
If I was going to do a unilateral abort with brakes, I'd pull the levers back too, or grab the master cutoffs if the other guy fought it.
If I was going to do a unilateral abort with brakes, I'd pull the levers back too, or grab the master cutoffs if the other guy fought it.
09-15-2021, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rama
Is there no take off configuration warning on these light jets?
If not, why not?
If not, why not?
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