Bailing out of a good airplane
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Trevor Jacob fire extinguisher evidence - Imgur
The screenshots sure seem to look like it. I hope the FAA absolutely destroys this guy.
The screenshots sure seem to look like it. I hope the FAA absolutely destroys this guy.
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What is under his pant leg is speculation. It would be any number of things. An obstacle like that in on the rear of the calf would be unwise and a control risk while taxing, taking off, and landing in the Taylorcraft, as anyone that has flown one can imagine.
There are hundreds, possibly thousands of landing sites in that video. If someone couldn't put that Tylorcraft on the ground with a stopped prop, one has no business flying it.
Given reports of the mechanical and legal condition of the airplane, he had no business flying it in the first place.
The Taylorcraft has a slick bench seat and little room; sport parachute rig compromises control travel distance to the pilot and the ability to sit in and strap in to the airplane. It's a stupid idea in an airplane like that.
Exiting with a sport parachute rig without an open door puts the pilot at considerable risk of snagging the main parachute pilot chute, reserve handle, and cutaway handle, as well as snagging either of the main or reserve closing pins. Snagging the pilot chute could cause an out of sequence deployment or cause the pilot chute to release from it's pouch during the airplane exit; almost certainly fatal, and the same goes for snagging the reserve ripcord, or causing either the main or reserve container closing pins or loops to be damaged or pulled. Snagging the cutaway handle would result in release of the three-ring releases on one or both shoulders, causing a loss of failure of the main parachute, and possibly interference with the reserve, on deployment of either the main or reserve. Squeezing out that door poses a lot of risks and is a stupid act, especially done intentionally. The best solution for an engine failure in that airplane revolves around landing it.
There was a lot of altitude and time involved in that exit and deployment. The Taylorcraft is not a high altitude airplane.
There are a lot of ways to film an exit and free fall. A selfie stick isn't among them. It's an idiotic way to attempt an exit, freefall and deployment, especially in an emergency. If one is too frightened to land the airplane, yet plans far enough ahead to take selfie pictures as one exits, it's incongruous and clearly staged.
There are hundreds, possibly thousands of landing sites in that video. If someone couldn't put that Tylorcraft on the ground with a stopped prop, one has no business flying it.
Given reports of the mechanical and legal condition of the airplane, he had no business flying it in the first place.
The Taylorcraft has a slick bench seat and little room; sport parachute rig compromises control travel distance to the pilot and the ability to sit in and strap in to the airplane. It's a stupid idea in an airplane like that.
Exiting with a sport parachute rig without an open door puts the pilot at considerable risk of snagging the main parachute pilot chute, reserve handle, and cutaway handle, as well as snagging either of the main or reserve closing pins. Snagging the pilot chute could cause an out of sequence deployment or cause the pilot chute to release from it's pouch during the airplane exit; almost certainly fatal, and the same goes for snagging the reserve ripcord, or causing either the main or reserve container closing pins or loops to be damaged or pulled. Snagging the cutaway handle would result in release of the three-ring releases on one or both shoulders, causing a loss of failure of the main parachute, and possibly interference with the reserve, on deployment of either the main or reserve. Squeezing out that door poses a lot of risks and is a stupid act, especially done intentionally. The best solution for an engine failure in that airplane revolves around landing it.
There was a lot of altitude and time involved in that exit and deployment. The Taylorcraft is not a high altitude airplane.
There are a lot of ways to film an exit and free fall. A selfie stick isn't among them. It's an idiotic way to attempt an exit, freefall and deployment, especially in an emergency. If one is too frightened to land the airplane, yet plans far enough ahead to take selfie pictures as one exits, it's incongruous and clearly staged.
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What other things could it be? Cylindrical, red, round gauge-like protuberance in the pant leg? I know you're not defending him, it just seems very obvious that it was a fire extinguisher. What other number of things could it be? Bear spray is the only thing that comes to mind....
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What other things could it be? Cylindrical, red, round gauge-like protuberance in the pant leg? I know you're not defending him, it just seems very obvious that it was a fire extinguisher. What other number of things could it be? Bear spray is the only thing that comes to mind....
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What other things could it be? Cylindrical, red, round gauge-like protuberance in the pant leg? I know you're not defending him, it just seems very obvious that it was a fire extinguisher. What other number of things could it be? Bear spray is the only thing that comes to mind....
Clearly you do.
What is under his pant leg? Unknown. An object. It could be a number of objects. He's jumping into terrain off-field, and will hike. Water for a hike? Smoker to enhance the visual impact of a planned jump? Thermos? Fire extinguisher? Bear spray? Shampoo? Ashes of the friend he was supposed to be traveling to Mammoth to spread? Spare batteries for his cameras? Who knows?
The notion of stating what the object is, when it's unknown, smacks of guesswork (not educated guesswork...just ignorance). What is on his leg is not known. Any number of objects, containers, etc, could be there. Insert your favorite pet theory and guesswork, use your imagination. Speculate wildly. After all, stipulating speculation and ignorance as fact always contributes to understanding much better than stating the truth: it's an unknown object.
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He's jumping into terrain off-field, and will hike. Water for a hike? Smoker to enhance the visual impact of a planned jump? Thermos? Fire extinguisher? Bear spray? Shampoo? Ashes of the friend he was supposed to be traveling to Mammoth to spread? Spare batteries for his cameras? Who knows?
For all the years I’ve been flying, other than a pilot kneeboard, not once did I strap water or hiking supplies or shampoo nor anything else to my leg prior to takeoff, “just in case.”
I know you’re playing devils advocate, but let’s get real.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shats like a duck… it’s probably not a horse.
The entire event was planned and staged. The fact he hired a helicopter crew to remove the wreckage before anyone could inspect it pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin for this clown…
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