Air France Flight Control Failure on Landiing
04-06-2022, 04:48 AM
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Air France Flight Control Failure on Landiing
https://www.foxnews.com/world/air-fr...e-unresponsive
This is very scary! Glad the crew was able to handle this and land safely! Here’s the audio.
https://youtu.be/avVvgYQtDiI
This is very scary! Glad the crew was able to handle this and land safely! Here’s the audio.
https://youtu.be/avVvgYQtDiI
05-02-2022, 07:43 AM
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Details emerge of Air France B777 landing incident (aerotime.aero)
Helps when only one person tries to fly at a time.
Helps when only one person tries to fly at a time.
05-02-2022, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
Is this what happens when French pilots have to hand fly?
The famous Air France "we have controls" technique.
05-11-2022, 07:36 AM
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I went back and forth for days trying to decide whether to ask a question out of fear that someone would snap at me but I’m curious so here it goes 😊. What happens if in a situation like this one the pilot flying is having trouble and the pilot monitoring says “I have control” or “my airplane” but the other pilot refuses to relinquish control? I know that the captain has ultimate authority, but is there ever a situation where a first officer can demand to take control because the captain is clearly not taking the proper corrective action and the first officer can assume authority and override the captain?
05-11-2022, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jDSTJD
I went back and forth for days trying to decide whether to ask a question out of fear that someone would snap at me but I’m curious so here it goes 😊. What happens if in a situation like this one the pilot flying is having trouble and the pilot monitoring says “I have control” or “my airplane” but the other pilot refuses to relinquish control? I know that the captain has ultimate authority, but is there ever a situation where a first officer can demand to take control because the captain is clearly not taking the proper corrective action and the first officer can assume authority and override the captain?
But such a situation would be exceptionally rare, at least in low power-distance cultures.
05-11-2022, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jDSTJD
Lol. Both you and Excargogod stopped where my question begins. What happens if the pilot refuses to relinquish control upon being commanded to do so?.
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