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Old 08-03-2022, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX View Post
Best to not make this assumption JB. A thorough investigation involving facts will flesh this out.
That's not an assumption. Have you not jumped or flown a CASA 212 before?
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Old 08-03-2022, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Best not to assume.
I'm taking the liberty of assuming that it's more likely he fell out while inspecting the gear, than that he jumped intentionally.

I'm also assuming it's slightly more likely that he committed suicide than that he thought it would safer to try to freefall into a lake from 3500 than land with a missing wheel.


This is one of those times when I think it's useful to talk about this before the final comes out because others might learn to be careful when troubleshooting gear problems.

Kind of doubt the final will be conclusive anyway. The investigators will probably reach the same conclusion I did, but have no way to disprove the survivor's version.
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Old 08-03-2022, 07:27 PM
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I'm also assuming it's slightly more likely that he committed suicide than that he thought it would safer to try to freefall into a lake from 3500 than land with a missing wheel.
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Aim for the bushes.

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Old 08-03-2022, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Aim for the bushes.

https://youtu.be/Q86Rn4jETVk

And sometimes it even works…

https://medium.com/illumination-cura...y-a260db628122
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Old 08-04-2022, 04:19 AM
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It is apparent that there is a major flaw in the logic tree of one or both of those pilots. This is why airlines require psych testing as part of the hiring process.
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Old 08-04-2022, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211 View Post
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-dies-...123424547.html

I don’t understand why the co-pilot would jump out of a moving plane before touching down…did he really think it was safer than landing gear up? Was he really that dumb? These must be more to this story. If anybody has more info, can you please shed some light.
He looked at the United TA
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Old 08-04-2022, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
That story has been re-told many times, but was never true.

Inevitably a few more will come out of the woodwork with supposedly true stories that they've heard about, relatives they knew, or friend-of-a-friend accounts. They're never true.

In 2016, Like Aikins did a freefall from 25,000 into a large net complex in a one-off event, sans parachute rig or a wing suit. It was a first.
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Old 08-04-2022, 08:15 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/expert-ca...152833802.html

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Old 08-05-2022, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
That story has been re-told many times, but was never true.
I have no insight into that story's truthfulness, but it's certainly plausible. There are a variety of such stories out there, and I tend to believe at least a few of them are true especially during the WWII era when there were a LOT of airplanes over Europe, where there's a lot of snow and vegetation.

The physics is pretty easy, terminal velocity isn't really that fast, if you land in thick enough vegetation, snow, debris, or even a haystack it is survivable.
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Old 08-05-2022, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211 View Post
Plausible that he might have been trying to open a door in preparation for emergency landing, to ensure they could egress.

I think those side doors are removable? If he had a good grip on it and it got caught in the slipstream that could be all she wrote.
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