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CatPilot1 02-17-2025 12:21 PM
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.

sn00p 02-17-2025 12:21 PM
Originally Posted by flightbag (Post 3883676)
So What caused the Endeavor aircraft to be upside down at CYYZ?
What caused you to grow up without any class?

word302 02-17-2025 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3883679)
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.
So it’s ok to kill people as long as they’re paying less money for their ticket?

Sputnik 02-17-2025 12:31 PM
Maybe too soon

CBreezy 02-17-2025 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3883679)
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.
The CA reportedly has over 20 years at Endeavor. How does that fit your narrative?

Vito 02-17-2025 12:40 PM
8 injuries, no fatalities. Good news.

11atsomto 02-17-2025 12:45 PM
Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3883679)
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.
Regionals still require 5 times the amount of experience required at mainlines around most of the planet…..just sayin

CGLimits 02-17-2025 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3883679)
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.
Regional airlines have been operating safely for decades. Major airlines today operate with highly inexperienced pilots compared to fifteen years ago. I have a feeling this accident had little to do with lack of experience. And isn’t Endeavor owned by Delta? You could argue that is in-house.

1Taco 02-17-2025 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3883679)
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.
what about the UAL 777 that did a nose-dive in Maui? Or the AA 777 that crossed an active runway while a 737 was on a takeoff roll? How’s that fit into your narrative?

YLight 02-17-2025 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Vito (Post 3883689)
8 injuries, no fatalities. Good news.
Airliner full of paying pax with injuries...upside down. Not very good news. Scaring/hurting/killing pax is bad service. Bad landing technique, calling it now.


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