US Air crash
01-19-2009, 03:18 AM
#392
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Originally Posted by Kingbird87
I fly the A320 for another carrier and heard of the miraculous event prior to departure to LGA that same afternoon. I have thought of scarcely anything else since. As we arrived over the Hudson that evening, lights were illuminating the recovery as I stole a glimpse at the aircraft. I thought back many years, to the evening of September 3, 1983. I was the copilot of Air Force Rescue 95822, and we had arrived on scene as the first aircraft to the scene of the shootdown of KAL 007. The lights on the water, the gravity of the situation, took me back to that time, and I realized that Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger III had filled me again with the awe and wonder that brought me into this wonderful profession. When I was a young cadet, he was the young Lieutenant flying F-4's that I aspired to be like, every facet of this man's career has been devoted to the refinement of the profession, and I have spent the last few days again filled with awe and wonder. We all know the technical intricacies of our aircraft, the procedures we have been trained in, and the precedents of those events that have been investigated.
This was "The Event", that we all have lived with tucked beneath our facades. And in that moment, Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger III knew what he had. His altitude and low airspeed, the futility of a restart, and the fact that his energy would not allow him to make Teterboro or return to LaGuardia. It is the very general term "judgment", and his judgment included all of those forty remarkable years flying and accumulating "judgment". He was on the "perch" with a T-38, doing a high key flameout landing with an F-4, computing a visual descent point by instant glance, and using his glider training to finesse the course of events that he chose. And he chose the course, and it was magnificent. And although I am not that much younger than "Sully", I am filled with "Awe and Wonder", and like the young man I was, accept that I still can do a lot more to try to measure up to his standard. Thank you Captain Sullenberger, for exemplifying my chosen profession in the most shining light. Thank you for being ready, when the darkest and most private hell that we all keep within us, emerged. And thank you most of all, for the "Awe and Wonder", that around the world, will inspire another generation of talent to infuse our profession.
This was "The Event", that we all have lived with tucked beneath our facades. And in that moment, Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger III knew what he had. His altitude and low airspeed, the futility of a restart, and the fact that his energy would not allow him to make Teterboro or return to LaGuardia. It is the very general term "judgment", and his judgment included all of those forty remarkable years flying and accumulating "judgment". He was on the "perch" with a T-38, doing a high key flameout landing with an F-4, computing a visual descent point by instant glance, and using his glider training to finesse the course of events that he chose. And he chose the course, and it was magnificent. And although I am not that much younger than "Sully", I am filled with "Awe and Wonder", and like the young man I was, accept that I still can do a lot more to try to measure up to his standard. Thank you Captain Sullenberger, for exemplifying my chosen profession in the most shining light. Thank you for being ready, when the darkest and most private hell that we all keep within us, emerged. And thank you most of all, for the "Awe and Wonder", that around the world, will inspire another generation of talent to infuse our profession.
01-19-2009, 03:56 AM
#393
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Having read the majority of comments on this thread, I'd like to say that while we all think these crewmembers did an amazing job, I think we'd ALL do an amazing job in a similar situation. Seems every time we hear of an incident like this.....CAL running off the runway in DEN, JB with the cocked nosewheel, USAirways putting it down in the drink, etc., we ALL talk about the "heroes" and "professionalism" that was displayed that day. What we seem to witness over and over again is the talent and hard work that make us who we are and what we do. It is our JOB to fly these planes safely, and that is what we do.........and we do it very well. Many don't realize the training and stress we go through every day, every sim ride, every medical, every year, year after year, to get to the position where we are today. It is a LOT of hard work, and we see it pay off, time and time again. We work in one of the safest professions in the world. Hopefully people will start realizing that it isn't just dumb luck when everyone on a plane walks off safely, but skill and training, and HARD WORK.
01-19-2009, 03:02 PM
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First - Hats off to the entire crew for a job well-done !!!!!
What are the odds of this AD coinciding with the recent birdstrike incident at LGA ?
This was issued January 7, 2009:
"An emergency safety directive has been issued to airlines using twin-engine Airbus A320s after both engines on one stalled over the Mediterranean, just 18 days after an Air New Zealand A320 crashed killing all seven on board"
AirDisaster.Com News: Warning issued to airlines flying Airbuses
And now this shows up on the radar screen at CNN:
"(CNN) -- Two days before US Airways Flight 1549 crashed into the Hudson River, passengers on the same route and same aircraft say they heard a series of loud bangs and the flight crew told them they could have to make an emergency landing, CNN has learned."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/19/hud...olo/index.html
What are the odds of this AD coinciding with the recent birdstrike incident at LGA ?
This was issued January 7, 2009:
"An emergency safety directive has been issued to airlines using twin-engine Airbus A320s after both engines on one stalled over the Mediterranean, just 18 days after an Air New Zealand A320 crashed killing all seven on board"
AirDisaster.Com News: Warning issued to airlines flying Airbuses
And now this shows up on the radar screen at CNN:
"(CNN) -- Two days before US Airways Flight 1549 crashed into the Hudson River, passengers on the same route and same aircraft say they heard a series of loud bangs and the flight crew told them they could have to make an emergency landing, CNN has learned."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/19/hud...olo/index.html
01-24-2009, 05:43 AM
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01-24-2009, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NGINEWHOISWHAT
That's what I'm saying! I'd guess he was a captain once upon a time ...
The FO only had 35 hours in type according to a news report. Not sure what he flew before the mini-bus.
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