Beechcraft T6 Texan II accident
07-25-2010, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
They took the midfield cable (by accident, weren't familiar with F4 bases having a mid field cable) at very high speed, which ripped the tail hook off.
Sure enough, I ripped some stanchions out of the ground and overstressed the cable itself, but both the cable and hook held. Had to replace the seat's inertial reel also because that got jammed up - I had to release my harness to raise the hook, but I taxied back to chocks after they slingshotted me. The cable had to be replaced, but the hook just got NDI'd. Lots of motrin for my neck afterwards.
07-26-2010, 04:33 AM
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Tried to read what I can on Internet on T6 Texan II systems. Not much is out there other than basic specifications. Any good articles on internet that someone can post on APC board ?
Assume aircraft does not have reverse (to mimic a Jet) and no anti-skid brakes system also? Anything else enter into the picture here ? Is blowing a tire on landing a problem?
cub
Assume aircraft does not have reverse (to mimic a Jet) and no anti-skid brakes system also? Anything else enter into the picture here ? Is blowing a tire on landing a problem?
cub
07-26-2010, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by UPTme
The awesome thing about ejection criteria in the T-6 (probably any aircraft, but I can't comment) is that it's 'technique only.' My T6 ejection decision varied with the day. If the ground was rain soaked, I'd have punched if I was above taxi speed.
Really???? I was always under the impression that black&white, 1 or zero type ejection criteria was best. If you're on fire and fire persists, eject. If you're departing the prepared surface above a certain speed, eject. I realize the scenarios can add plenty of variables but you probably shouldn't have too long a laundry list of "if this, then thats", IMO.We all know in the heat of the battle, you've got to keep things simple. Having ejection criteria that changes daily isn't "awesome" and probably won't work out real well eventually.
07-26-2010, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Really???? I was always under the impression that black&white, 1 or zero type ejection criteria was best. If you're on fire and fire persists, eject. If you're departing the prepared surface above a certain speed, eject. I realize the scenarios can add plenty of variables but you probably shouldn't have too long a laundry list of "if this, then thats", IMO.We all know in the heat of the battle, you've got to keep things simple. Having ejection criteria that changes daily isn't "awesome" and probably won't work out real well eventually.
Made a lot of sense in that trap.
07-27-2010, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Really???? I was always under the impression that black&white, 1 or zero type ejection criteria was best. If you're on fire and fire persists, eject. If you're departing the prepared surface above a certain speed, eject. I realize the scenarios can add plenty of variables but you probably shouldn't have too long a laundry list of "if this, then thats", IMO.We all know in the heat of the battle, you've got to keep things simple. Having ejection criteria that changes daily isn't "awesome" and probably won't work out real well eventually.
07-27-2010, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Wuzzo
A buddy of mine's T-37 ejection criteria: "When what I see out the canopy scares me more than this seat, I'm ejecting."
Made a lot of sense in that trap.
Made a lot of sense in that trap.
07-27-2010, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by donk74
....Overall you had to set your criteria before you flew, thats what I would do, and if you/I met it... give the bird back to the taxpayers.
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