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Old 02-09-2011, 09:12 PM
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I just wonder out of not really knowing the answer, what 121 pilot makes less that 17k a year? besides the GLA and Gulfstream guys. Does colgan/ skywest fall into that catergory?
that's a negative for the 9L side
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:52 PM
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Skywest first year FOs make 22/hr. On reserve guarantee that works out to $19,800. Second year jumps to 35/hr in the RJ and 28/hr in the EMB respectively.

A reserve junior FO at Skyw, especially an EMB FO, can have a pretty hard time with money. I'd imagine they don't have extra cash for a hotel.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:15 AM
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Mods, do you really think the average APC'er frequents the safety sub-forum of the pilot lounge sub-forum? Why do you have to go and kill good threads like this?
You are correct, I never look at the safety sub-forum either.


HOWEVER...I believe I am not alone when I say that when I log on I want to see what I missed and I click on the "new posts" tab. When I did that this morning this popped up. Its not seeing as little traffic as you may suspect.
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I did watch both pieces and the general thrust of each was the fact that most airlines are making big bucks, and paying their F/O's peanuts negating the affordability of a hotel room for a quality night's sleep. I say F/O's since this seems to be the focus, are Captain's typically paying for hotel rooms? Do any crew members share hotel rooms, or is this not cool?

Speaking with crew members around 80% commute in order to fly a regional jet or turboprop. I agree with Sully that we all deserve a good night's sleep, as the flying public deserves well rested crew members, and courtesy of 3407 this needs to get looked at more closely because in Sully's eyes the "big one" has already happened. I agree.

How about If for instance the carrier provided a $200/mo. hotel allowance which were reimbursed via your monthly expenses. If pushed by the appropriate parties could this work? I am using the assumption of four hotel nights at $50/night, which may be a little light for NYC. I also use the term "other parties" loosely since the FAA is going to be the last organization to jump in on this one, an organization that is broken beyond repair at this point.
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No such thing as "monthly expenses" in the regional airline world; you get per-diem when you work and that's about it.
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:51 AM
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...that's an AWAC badge on the sleeping pilot around 1:45 in the video...
Tattletale.
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:59 AM
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Tattletale.
"US Airways Express"

"Crew rooms in LGA and PHL"

Nothing anybody with Google couldn't figure out in 3 minutes...
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Old 02-10-2011, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf View Post
I just wonder out of not really knowing the answer, what 121 pilot makes less that 17k a year? besides the GLA and Gulfstream guys. Does colgan/ skywest fall into that catergory?
Colgan
Commutair
Mesa
Pinnacle (currently)

you should make less than 20,000
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Old 02-10-2011, 07:01 AM
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I agree, this should be back at the regional forum. Here's the link to the Nightline piece.

Pilot Fatigue and 'Crash Pads' Threaten The Safety Of Airline Passengers - ABC News

For the record I was making just over 17K the first two years of my career.

Good footage in the crew rooms too... pretty typical stuff, cheap faux-leather couches and people passed out on them.
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt View Post
Its not seeing as little traffic as you may suspect.
It's still on the first page of the regional forum. Watch what happens when it falls off that first page.
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