CaptainCarl

Agreed, we got that cleared up.

BTW, I love all the sanctimonious palaver about judging pilots--please review the GoJet thread where such gems as the following can be found.

Thanks, expectholding for a generous description of GoJet pilots and character.

I refused an offer at UAL in '85, walked the pickets at EAL in the '89 strike, , walked away and never looked back, so I know quite enough about judging pilots, union politics and character.

GF

....ssssooooooooooooo what's your excuse for tonight's escapade?

Do it for the lulz perhaps?

Easy guys... It is very easy to fall into Monday morning quarter back mode. Let's all put away our sticks and stones and settle down. As much as our feelings are hurt by some ones perceived judgmental remarks, feeding the troll doesn't help anything!

Let's just wait until the facts are revealed. Thankfully everyone is unharmed, that is what the most important thing is.

Maybe we will learn some new information tomorrow.

United Plane Skids off Ottawa Runway
 

United Plane Skids off Ottawa Runway


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OTTAWA, Ontario September 5, 2011 (AP)


Authorities say a United Express plane carrying 44 people has skidded off the runway at Ottawa International Airport.
Emergency and airport officials said Sunday all the passengers traveling from Chicago got off the plane safely and were taken into the terminal on city buses.
Airport spokeswoman Krista Kealey says there were no injuries and everyone is fine.


United Express is a brand name under which regional airlines operate feeder flights for United Airlines.
Ottawa police said in a news release that the plane skidded onto a grassy area.
Ottawa fire service spokesman Marc Messier posted on Twitter that fire crews were working to contain a fuel spill from the damage.
United Airlines did not have any immediate information on the mishap.





Another Express Flight bruises the brand of mainline.

Why doesn't the press ever publish the name of the actual carrier in large bold print in the headlines?

GOT SCOPE??

Note: no implication is being made as to the experience or qualifications of the crew or any extenuating circumstances that may have led to the overrun. Just that the accident aircraft is not flown by United pilots but UniCon has it's image tarnished in the public eye by a subcontractor.

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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. You mainline folks do a fine job of bruising your own brand. Shall we start naming incidents and accidents where mainline guys have bruised their own brand?

I have seen two articles so far that named Trans States as the carrier involved in the accident. And the reason we aren't in the headlines is because people don't recognize us. But United on the other hand, that's a brand they know.

Yeah, get on it. We are patiently waiting.

And UniCon has subcontractors because... oh that's right, y'all don't have scope. And who relaxed the scope clause to include 50+ and 70+ seat jets? :rolleyes:

I'd love to see the landing data for no thrust reverser, un-grooved runway, standing water, low-vis. It just SOUNDS bad!
How does trans-states get landing data?

The ERJ has super special carbon breaks, not steel, that's why TRs are optional. Just throwing it out there because many wonder why there are no TRs to begin with.

I'm just starting not to care about this profession as a career anymore.

You are right it is all our fault for giving you the flying and making you work for reasonable rates and good contracts. Management carries no blame, and certainly pilots at regional airlines willing to undercut each other for what used to be mainline flying are not responsible either.

I'm beginning to think we should just give up the 90-120 seat range as well. Then you can fly those for your 70 seat rates just for the growth and quick upgrade.

You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Which are you?

Another Express Flight bruises the brand of mainline.

Why doesn't the press ever publish the name of the actual carrier in large bold print in the headlines?

GOT SCOPE??

Note: no implication is being made as to the experience or qualifications of the crew or any extenuating circumstances that may have led to the overrun. Just that the accident aircraft is not flown by United pilots but UniCon has it's image tarnished in the public eye by a subcontractor.

+1. This is NOT United Airlines