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FDXLAG 02-14-2012 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by 320Driver (Post 1134959)
Just saying the guy quoted is not a FDX pilot, that's all. Do I get my three credits?

Since I said he was an IPAer before I quoted him I dont think you have the SAT scores to qualify for the U Of P.

1800 RVR 02-14-2012 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1134930)
What do you mean? "Hurray for ALPA"? No, it's the hurray for all pilot's that have to carry these batteries thread.

I just found it odd that the article only quoted the ALPA representative. You know, like he's the only representative of pilot's on the ICAO panel?

Apologies. With the rolly-eyes icon, I thought you were busting on the IPA. "Lost in translation" you could say. As for the other bashing going on, I won't touch that. Not saying that it's right... But the snubbing that ALPA gave us for the lawsuit rubbed many the wrong way.

iceman49 02-14-2012 12:40 PM

How do the ICAO rules differ from the current US rules, it looks like only an awareness and training of personnel. Is there a difference in how much can be carried? Thanks

Perm11FO 02-14-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1135005)
How do the ICAO rules differ from the current US rules, it looks like only an awareness and training of personnel. Is there a difference in how much can be carried? Thanks

There is currently nothing that requires an inspection of the batteries to be carried, nor a requirement to inform the crew.
I'd rather be aware that I had a potential problem aboard than to continue with the "I've got a secret" game of shippers masking DG as regular cargo in order to get lower shipping rates.
The acknowledgement that lithium-ion batteries CAN be dangerous is similarly a huge step in getting to either ban them completely from air shipments or place them in a suitable DG category where they are documented and tracked.

Lindy 02-14-2012 03:05 PM

It is labeled Class 9 - which is miscellaneous - at FDX you need to look at every position that has Class 9 to see whether you have the lithium batteries. Not difficult to ascertain, but not displayed in an easy format.

Perm11FO 02-14-2012 05:45 PM

Yes, I realize that. But so are a plethora of other things listed as Class 9, few of which can cause SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS (i.e.: FIRE...). Lithium ion batteries deserve to be brought to the forefront so that they are TRANSPARENT, even on the 3rd leg of a night hub turning death march.

Busboy 02-15-2012 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by 320Driver (Post 1134959)
Just saying the guy quoted is not a FDX pilot, that's all. Do I get my three credits?

Only if you can point to the post where someone said he was a FDX pilot.

iceman49 02-16-2012 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Perm11FO (Post 1135059)
There is currently nothing that requires an inspection of the batteries to be carried, nor a requirement to inform the crew.
I'd rather be aware that I had a potential problem aboard than to continue with the "I've got a secret" game of shippers masking DG as regular cargo in order to get lower shipping rates.
The acknowledgement that lithium-ion batteries CAN be dangerous is similarly a huge step in getting to either ban them completely from air shipments or place them in a suitable DG category where they are documented and tracked.

Agreed on the information, I was just hoping that they would be banned on all aircraft other than those for personal use in computers etc.


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