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alarkyokie 03-19-2012 04:22 AM

NC Citation crash Friday
 
WLOS ABC 13 News :: Top Stories - Plane Crash Victims Identified

RonWeasley 03-19-2012 10:36 AM

Yikes that's horrible, looks as if she had fuel on her. How could someone "like" a story like this on fb?

Cubdriver 03-19-2012 05:23 PM

Not to get the speculation engine going, but it is a mountain airport and it is likely he was high on approach, dove for the runway, and dropped a wing in an accelerated stall while trying to avoid a hard landing. That would be a good reason never to dive for a runway, use a stabilized approach, and do a go around. We'll see what NTSB says.

mundo1 03-19-2012 06:08 PM

Very sad indeed.



Originally Posted by RonWeasley (Post 1154347)
How could someone "like" a story like this on fb?

On FB, "like" is not always related to the content of the story itself. "Like" is also used to acknowledge (approve) that the information is being made available.

AKASHA 03-19-2012 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1154547)
Not to get the speculation engine going, but it is a mountain airport and it is likely he was high on approach, dove for the runway, and dropped a wing in an accelerated stall while trying to avoid a hard landing. That would be a good reason never to dive for a runway, use a stabilized approach, and do a go around. We'll see what NTSB says.

Well, that's one way to keep the speculation engine from going... pure, wild speculation.

l1011 03-19-2012 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1154547)
Not to get the speculation engine going, but it is a mountain airport and it is likely he was high on approach, dove for the runway, and dropped a wing in an accelerated stall while trying to avoid a hard landing. That would be a good reason never to dive for a runway, use a stabilized approach, and do a go around. We'll see what NTSB says.

You may be on the money. I am familiar with the area and it is very mountainous. I have seen many FL pilots with little mountain flying experience flying some very high approaches to the airports around Western NC and Eastern TN.

detpilot 03-20-2012 01:07 AM

Sad story indeed, but...


Originally Posted by AKASHA (Post 1154608)
Well, that's one way to keep the speculation engine from going... pure, wild speculation.

Thanks for the early morning chuckle!

Cubdriver 03-20-2012 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by AKASHA (Post 1154608)
Well, that's one way to keep the speculation engine from going... pure, wild speculation.

When does theory not start from basic speculation? Say something substantive. Forming our own theories is not harmful in the study of accidents. If you defer to the pros you are going to get a probable cause statement pointing to the same things you can look at yourself. It would be good to form your own theory and then later when the report comes out see how well it matches or differs from the official conclusion. Just don't get carried away with your theory, that's all.

Adlerdriver 03-21-2012 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1154737)
When does theory not start from basic speculation? Say something substantive. Forming our own theories is not harmful in the study of accidents. If you defer to the pros you are going to get a probable cause statement pointing to the same things you can look at yourself. It would be good to form your own theory and then later when the report comes out see how well it matches or differs from the official conclusion. Just don't get carried away with your theory, that's all.

Forming your own theories in private is not necessarily harmful.

Forming them and making them public on a open access forum can be.

The big difference between your speculati......I mean forming theories and the "pros" you mentioned is that they actually examine evidence BEFORE they develop theories.

alarkyokie 03-21-2012 04:07 AM

News said the flight originated in Florida and destination was the Macon County airport.
I agree, the damage looks like a lot of fuel onboard.


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