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Old 02-02-2013, 08:59 AM
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Wonder how many innocent people died after being hit with stray bullets.
After this, or a wedding, or a funeral, or a Wednesday?

These guys seem to have no qualms about firing into the air, on any occasion.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:05 AM
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I used to fly into KBHM regularly. The FBO had a collection of slugs, found on the ramp, from New Year's and other festivals worthy of firing straight up into the air.

One of the slugs was a .44.

An infant was killed in PHX, many years ago, after the same type of celebration. Bullet came through the window. (No, not a drive-by....a vertical trajectory).

There are many cities in America where people believe that vertical bullets just 'evaporate,' because 'I never saw it again.'
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:51 AM
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On July 6th a few years back I found a fired .40 FMJ bullet in perfect condition on the back patio of a place I was renting, complete with rifling marks but otherwise not deformed. Still can't figure out how it ended up so well preserved... luckily I don't live in that town anymore
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A small arms bullet fired straight up into the air is unlikely to harm anyone, it won't have enough energy. This requires a plumb and level to set up properly. Have not seen many yo-yos use this method though.

However, tilt that muzzle a few degrees off center and a bullet will carry a lot of energy a long way. Max range is at about a 45 degree angle.

Firing a weapon into the air is a very bad idea, and not an indicator of anything except wanton disregard for life and property.
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That whale looks in good shape for as old as she is and any ideas as to who sold her to the Iranians ?
Just guessing TW or PA ?
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
A small arms bullet fired straight up into the air is unlikely to harm anyone, it won't have enough energy. This requires a plumb and level to set up properly. Have not seen many yo-yos use this method though.

However, tilt that muzzle a few degrees off center and a bullet will carry a lot of energy a long way. Max range is at about a 45 degree angle.

Firing a weapon into the air is a very bad idea, and not an indicator of anything except wanton disregard for life and property.
Actually, a study HAS been done on this. It found that anything bigger than a .25 auto had the capability in terms of mass and speed to penetrate a skull. .22s and .25s weren't very capable. I think they concluded just about everything else would, as it's a combination of either small cross section (5.56) allowing it to accelerate and weight, as far as energy imparted when it strikes a human. Although you can get max range at 45°, I doubt it's carrying any more energy at the point of impact than the one fired straight up.
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That whale looks in good shape for as old as she is and any ideas as to who sold her to the Iranians ?
Just guessing TW or PA ?
Boeing. Iran Air and the Iranian Air Force were both customers.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:46 AM
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Found this little tidbit .
Lost in Time: The Oldest Flying Boeing 747 – N93101 | Airline Reporter | Blogging on the airline business

And here's something extra .

Iran Air 747 at mehrabad - YouTube

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
Actually, a study HAS been done on this. It found that anything bigger than a .25 auto had the capability in terms of mass and speed to penetrate a skull. .22s and .25s weren't very capable. I think they concluded just about everything else would, as it's a combination of either small cross section (5.56) allowing it to accelerate and weight, as far as energy imparted when it strikes a human. Although you can get max range at 45°, I doubt it's carrying any more energy at the point of impact than the one fired straight up.
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