Asiana 777 Crash at SFO
07-09-2013, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Radials Rule
Not in the "light twin" either, but in general, I use manual thrust for hand flown approaches and landings whenever I can. Otherwise, I feel like I'm rusting and that I would subconsciously pay less attention to airspeed in my scan.
07-09-2013, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
. . . Asiana has been operating with nonunion pilots and union members who did not join the strike. About 500 of the airline's 839 pilots are unionized. The union said about 400 pilots had been on strike. . . .
07-09-2013, 09:37 AM
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What everybody is not saying is that airlines today train to the absolutely minimum required values. Anything more costs money. It is easier to train with and faster to use the automation. Proficiency is not required, just that you pass the minimum. A famous saying at our training house, is, "No, we don't do that here. You'll learn how to do that on the line."
07-09-2013, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
What everybody is not saying is that airlines today train to the absolutely minimum required values. Anything more costs money. It is easier to train with and faster to use the automation. Proficiency is not required, just that you pass the minimum. A famous saying at our training house, is, "No, we don't do that here. You'll learn how to do that on the line."
07-09-2013, 10:26 AM
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It is good to know how to employ automation to make your life easier. That includes turning it on at 500' and being able to efficiently use it in all phases of flight. It is more important, however, to be able to turn it all off and be able to fly proficiently. This is especially important during the approach and landing phases.
It is really easy to become over-reliant and spend your entire flight heads down in the box. When it hits the fan, though, and you get an unexpected approach change, level off, or the box just isn't doing what you want it to, it should be a no brainer to punch the button and fly the jet first. Aviate, navigate, communicate...day one of flight school.
It is really easy to become over-reliant and spend your entire flight heads down in the box. When it hits the fan, though, and you get an unexpected approach change, level off, or the box just isn't doing what you want it to, it should be a no brainer to punch the button and fly the jet first. Aviate, navigate, communicate...day one of flight school.
07-09-2013, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shfo
Yup at many airlines you can go all through training and never hand fly a V1 cut above acceleration height. At my airline you will also be debriefed if you do not turn the autopilot on at 500' after takeoff.
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