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Old 07-10-2013, 07:27 PM
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Updating during the investigation is proper protocol.
It is certainly better for those who have an actual safety interest (for their own and the flying public) to be getting real time information AND it is better than listening to the media speculate on wild theories and misperceptions.
Hersman is doing an outstanding job in my opinion.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:28 PM
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I dont have a problem with it. They are reporting facts.
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Updating during the investigation is proper protocol.
I am not in the pilot business, but have spent a career in another business where accidents, death and injuries is much more common than in the airline business and I have been among the ones that had to make public statements about events.
It is my experience that being open, forthcoming and non-conclusive is by far the best approach for all involved. Yes it leads to errors in reporting and misinterpretations, but among professionals and even in litigation that does not mean very much.
Providing facts as they are quantifies serves all but any guilty party the best.
The news reporters will mess it up if you inform them and the will mess it up more if you do not, heck it was reported that the plane was dissenting 1400 feet per second (and said with a straight face).
Most people can decipher what Deborah Hersman is saying without a journalist regurgitating it, without her you would only have the journalist ... and perhaps an expert flight attendant from an LCC.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:41 PM
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I landed on 28R a few hours ago. It's a surreal scene. The trail of all the bits and pieces are still there. It looks like it just happened. Very weird and very distracting. I imagine a great deal of data related to cabin survivability will come out of this investigation.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:20 PM
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The TFR over SFO is certainly interesting. Is it necessary in the Bravo surface area? Can they not exercise complete control there already?
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:57 PM
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Plot thickens.

Asiana pilot says he was blinded by light prior to crash
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:06 PM
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I turned final into a CA airport at sunrise, and managed a reasonable go-around. We couldn't see a damn thing!

On arrival/downwind it looked fine. So, on downwind again, we located a large hanger next to the runway, and I mentally made a picture of where the runway should be in relation to the hanger.

The next try, I just lined up relative to the hanger where I thought the runway was. When we got down to the last few feet we could finally see the runway enough to land safely.

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Old 07-10-2013, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
Of course... the Koreans are a face-saving culture, and are simply unable to face criticism without wilting. When they do face criticism, they frequently commit suicide (S. Korea has the highest suicide rate of industrialized countries, and suicide there is the leading cause of death of those under 40). But before that, they make up stories like this one.

Looking forward to hearing the CVR with the audio of the pilots' complaints on said blinding light And I'll go on the record now to predict that there will be multiple suicides by crewmembers of Asiana 214.
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I've been lazed while flying and it went something like this: "...I can't see, you have the aircraft...". I'll give the benefit of the doubt for the guy getting "bright light" in his eyes, but what about the other three guys? What's their story?
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:33 AM
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And I'll go on the record now to predict that there will be multiple suicides by crewmembers of Asiana 214.[/QUOTE]

Crap. I have to deadhead on Asiana in two weeks from Inchon to Hong Kong. Hope nobody decides to do it then.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:38 AM
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Is a laser effective in broad daylight, just before noon, on a sunny day? I've been blinded when landing into sunrises and sunsets, but never just before noon. Maybe the sun was reflecting up off the water and he was having trouble judging his height above the water, and distance from the runway?
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