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Aviator89 11-02-2013 11:09 AM

Twin Aztec down in MN
 
3 dead after plane crash near Caledonia | kare11.com

RIP to those who were lost, best of luck to the one in the ICU. No one heard a emergency call from the aircraft, or heard a plane flying overhead or the crash. It is believed that the crash happened at least one hour prior to discovery. Thankfully, no fire.
Too soon to know why, but I found it odd that no one around heard a aircraft or a crash. Im just blowing smoke here but either it was horribly unlucky no one heard or saw it, but makes me think dual engine failure. The one picture I did find showed the aircaft in one peice for the most part, but fairly mangled. Looked like a controlled landing into a soft field. Loss of control/stall spin prior to impact likely would have caused a break up on impact, and fire. Its not exactly a quiet aircraft, and no reports of fire...
Anyone else have some light to shed?

pengu 11-02-2013 11:28 AM

Fuel exhaustion or contamination perhaps .

rickair7777 11-02-2013 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by pengu (Post 1512016)
Fuel exhaustion or contamination perhaps .

no fire is a hallmark of fuel starvation accidents.

Aviator89 11-02-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1512066)
no fire is a hallmark of fuel starvation accidents.

I second that. Still not enough details to know, but I think the video said they had a IFR plan on file from the Caledonia airport to Troy Michigan. If it was the otherway around Troy to Calendonia then yes, fuel exhausting is highly likely. Thats a 3 hour flight with a fully loaded light twin. If the pilot tried to do than in one leg I cant image much room was left for fuel if it was flown within w&b limits. Cant imagine someone taking off empty. but im sure its happened. Anyway, if there was another reason why it landed in a field with no fire, relatively intact would be intentional landing. Shut the engines off just before landing to help prevent a fire. Or poorly managed engine failure and or drift down. (im not familiar with performance of a twin aztec on one engine with 4 passengers and fuel, possibly overloaded if they are trying a 3 hour leg plus reserves with 4 people on board) Or maybe there was a fire, snuffed out in flight with a shutdown and emergency descent, then landed of course. The picture made it look like it partially flipped. as if the gear dug in or something. Definitely didn't look like a loss of control accident and debris. Looked like a horrible landing into a soft surface.

Aviator89 11-02-2013 05:43 PM

Confirmed by news websites. the flight was Troy MI, to MN. Im suspecting fuel exhaustion.


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