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Airhoss 04-06-2014 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by SyGunson (Post 1618034)
Malacca Detour Sham Evidence

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...psbfe56ab5.jpg

At Beijing on 21 March 2014 Malaysian Authorities gave a briefing about the radar plot of a so-called mystery aircraft detected flying through the Straits of Malacca when MH370 disappeared.

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The image of the military radar plot from RMAF Butterworth bears no relation to the claims made of an aircraft flying from VAMPI to GIVAL.

It does not corroborate claims by the Malaysian Government that MH370 flew from IGARI to VAMPI - GIVAL - IGREX.

This blog correctly identifies the falsehoods presented about an alleged detour through the Straits of Malacca:

MH370: Updated route, final radar plot (Updated) | Ogle Earth

In short there is no evidence MH370 ever turned west from IGARI and there is no reason to discount the eyewitness sighting by oil rig worker Mike McKay off south Vietnam of an aircraft briefly on fire.

Oil rig worker says he saw Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 burst into flames | News.com.au

Oh my goodness information from a BLOG!!! The sky is falling the sky is falling!!!!!

I've got an idea....Why don't we wait and see if they are actually picking up a signal from the aircraft. Until we find the aircraft and retrieve the FDR the CVR we won't really know what happened. And until that moment every and anything said, written, or talked about is simply guess work, AKA B.S!

mournlight 04-06-2014 04:47 PM

"Originally Posted by CRM114 http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif This thread is nearly 1000 posts in and has degraded into the MODS beating up on a private pilot with a powerpoint slide and a conspiracy theory. Aside from the perverse entertainment it provides, why is this thread still open?"


I appreciate that it is still open. In spite of the few non-regulars who are fussed about, it feels like the most reliable source of information and comment I've found anywhere. It helps even us non-pilots wade through the bs. I see the updates on the news, and come straight away here to check in. Thanks, Mods, for allowing that ability. And thank you all for answering questions.

LightAttack 04-06-2014 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by SyGunson (Post 1618034)
Malacca Detour Sham Evidence

I really don't want to feed the troll, but "SHAM"-WOW! Absolute genius. I beg to differ with his PhD analysis, it isn't 6 hours 29 minutes, it's 6 hours 28 minutes due to increased Saharan dust in the air.

After an extensive search, I found the internet cafe where SpyGuy operates:

funny part!!! WoW Southpark: Cartman's **** - YouTube

patplan 04-07-2014 07:47 AM


The equipment being used on Haixun 01 which detected the first two pings last Saturday is designed for local searches for divers in shallow, sheltered waters, such as harbours, hardly the tool for the job in the very deep waters of the southern Indian Ocean. The Benthos Diver Pinger listening device that they were using is designed to identify sounds at depths of less than 1,000 feet, while the ocean bottom in parts of the search area exceeds 14,000 feet. It was also reported that the Chinese did not make any recording of what they heard explained possibly by the fact that recording is not a capability of the Benthos Diver Pinger.

Meanwhile, 300 nautical miles away the Australian Navy ship HMAS Ocean Shield equipped with a Towed Locator supplied by the US Navy looks to be conducting far more promising searches. Yesterday, those leading the Australian-led search effort announced that a detected sonar signal continued for two hours and 20 minutes with a second lasting for 13 minutes. On the second occasion two distinct ping returns were audible, something which was deemed to be the most promising lead yet.

“Detection with the Towed Pinger Locator (TLP) is a completely different matter to that with the hand-held device. The TLP is a purpose-built detector, which is towed deep underwater to provide maximum detection range of any pinger signals,” says Winter.

Even so, detecting the signal from the data recorder pinger will be highly difficult, even if HMAS Ocean Shield gets close to it.

“The ocean is a very noisy place,” he says, “and there are many noise sources that can be mistaken for the pinger. Steady contact with proper equipment over a significant period of time is the only way to detect it.”

The search effort will need to fix on a precise location before sending an underwater vehicle to investigate the finding, in an area of ocean whose depths are at the absolute limit of the unmanned underwater vehicle aboard Ocean Shield.

Also, a phenomenon in the ocean, known as the thermocline, which acts as a horizontal acoustic mirror below the surface makes it difficult for sound to propagate from the deep ocean up through this layer. “That means that to detect pings from deep objects, you need to get below this layer, as the TPL is designed to do,” says Winter.

There is cause for some optimism in the fact that search chief Air Chief Marshal Houston said there may have been the possibility that on the second run HMAS Ocean Shield detected two signals – one from each of the recorders. A slight variation in frequency between the two sonar signals could be because the pingers of the two recorders aren’t precisely the same age and their acoustic signals could vary slightly as a result.

jrishaw 04-08-2014 06:50 PM

  • Also, a phenomenon in the ocean, known as the thermocline, which acts as a horizontal acoustic mirror below the surface makes it difficult for sound to propagate from the deep ocean up through this layer.

Thank you for posting this. I was utterly confused on a couple of things, and this explains a lot. (Not to mention why the "pings" allegedly heard from the people from China with a pringles can on a stick have been thoroughly dismissed)..

jrishaw 04-08-2014 07:19 PM

AU Reporting more "pings" detected :
- Report, ABC News: Flight MH370 search commander: Data analysis of first 2 sets of signals show weren't natural; consistent with electronic device.
- Report, CNN: Official: Ship reacquires signals consistent with airplane locator beacons 2 more times
- Actual Joint Agency Coord. Ctr. official (reporting live video): "What we need is a completely noiseless environment. We are looking at this stage for weaker transmissions [...] We're very fortunate to get transmissions on day 33"

savall 04-09-2014 08:29 AM

I've been ignoring this thread and the news... Anything new worth mentioning ?

FDXLAG 04-09-2014 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by savall (Post 1620119)
I've been ignoring this thread and the news... Anything new worth mentioning ?

Yes Senator Durbin has announced that he pays the men on his staff an average of 12% more than the women and he demands a Federal law to fix it. Senator Boxer is not sure which of her staffers are men or women.

Airhoss 04-09-2014 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1620131)
Yes Senator Durbin has announced that he pays the men on his staff an average of 12% more than the women and he demands a Federal law to fix it. Senator Boxer is not sure which of her staffers are men or women.

Now that is some news worthy stuff right there!!

RI830 04-09-2014 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1620131)
Yes Senator Durbin has announced that he pays the men on his staff an average of 12% more than the women and he demands a Federal law to fix it. Senator Boxer is not sure which of her staffers are men or women.

90%of the tax paying Americans are unsure whether Sen. Fienstien is a man or a woman!


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