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Old 03-11-2014, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot View Post
Pilot left cockpit to visit restroom. Radicalized FO locks the door and says "my airplane, " pulls CBs, turns off switches and goes about his "thing" - whatever was planned.
This. FO is suspect number one. Only someone possessing the knowledge of how to make an aircraft go dark to the rest of the world could have pulled this off. I can't state this with certainty, but I don't think a hijacker/terrorist has made it past the cabin door since 9/11, and don't see it happening on this flight. If they did, I doubt they would know how to disable the ACARS, transponder, and anything else that could be used to track a 777. I don't suspect the captain, since he had been flying since 1981. Investigators need to start digging into the FO's background for signs of radicalism ASAP.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by The 99s View Post
Someone posted this on another site: NOAA data for 4 days ago shows a major disturbance of three of the buoys west of Smith Island (in the Andaman Sea - also known as the Nicobar). Displacement of the first buoy shows approximately 1500 feet (down). Weather doesn't seem to have been severe enough to cause this type of disturbance.
Where is that in reference to the last known position?

Not many people could turn off the plane's Transponder, ACARS and ADS without prior knowledge.

If one pilot leaves to go to the bathroom, it is hard to brake back in if the other pilot refuses entry with the new doors.
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
SONAR is soundwaves...

The "pinger" is an acoustic device as well, not RF.

Even VLF only goes down to 20 meters below the surface. Submarines use that for communications when they would come up near the surface. Only ELF frequencies can penetrate down to submarine operating depths. VHF and UHF have far less penetration that is limited to just below the surface.
A 31 year old memory of an event is not nearly as reliable as I thought. We did drop sonobuoys and a device on day 2. Day one was a long involved event from launch off Rescue Alert out of Kadena and reached the AO and ran an electronic creeping line search. The area was a denial zone and each event was extremely provocative on both sides. Thanks to all for helping me clarify my recollection. We did not usually drop sonobouys, though we did carry them, and although searching for objects underwater was not a daily occurrence, we had the capability. The event was so sensitive and fluid, I doubt any of us will ever know the entire story.
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Different systems may handle roaming differently. It may attempt to contact the phone via it's last know cell, and may generate a ring-tone while it's doing that. The ring tone doesn't always mean the phone is ringing, it may just mean the system is looking for a phone that never "checked out" of a cell.

If you turn your phone off, it should check out and the system would know it was off until it checked back in. But if the phone was left on for TO and just flew out of range, the cell at the airport might assume it's still there.

I wouldn't read ANYTHING into this until authorities do some forensics on what exactly the cell system was doing.
FWIW an expert was on the tube explaining exactly this. Doesn't mean the receiving phone is actually ringing, just that it is "looking" for that phone.
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:19 AM
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Condolences to the family and loved ones of the 239 on board. A lot of wild speculations here. Maybe we should call off the witch hunt and wait until we have facts from credible sources.

Dead men tell no tales…let's not tar and feather any of the crew based on assumptions.
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly View Post
Dead men tell no tales…let's not tar and feather any of the crew based on assumptions.
Agreed. What an insult to make accusations against the FO who may have died fighting to save this aircraft and all of it's passengers.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FLY6584 View Post
Agreed. What an insult to make accusations against the FO who may have died fighting to save this aircraft and all of it's passengers.

Especially those that were made up while wearing a tinfoil hat. I think many people here could benefit from understanding Occam's razor. What's more likely? A complex hijacking scheme in which a qualified airline pilot (with almost 3000 hours, gasp!) locked the Captain out of the cockpit, disabled every automatic reporting system on the aircraft in order to achieve some yet-to-be-determined objective or a catastrophic failure at a 3rd world airline with a likely spotty maintenance program?
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:33 AM
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this thread has really turned into the National Enquirer with some of the posts
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:51 AM
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I happened to look at the Spot Coverage Map today, and noticed that they are having "technical issues impacting connectivity and service levels" in exactly the area where the plane went missing.

Is this because of the massive search efforts? Or some other cause?
Anyone have more information?



Coverage in Cambodia, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei Darussalam, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh and parts of India, Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Indonesia, and Philippines are currently experiencing technical issues impacting connectivity and service levels. Issues are identified, and we are looking to resolve them.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:30 AM
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Any 777 avionics techs out there know if the FMS is fed any wireless signals?
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