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One Reason It May Be Harder to Find Flight 370: We Messed Up the Currents | Mother Jones

RI830

It can't be closed yet.....I predicted the following about 50 pages ago! It must come to fruition.

CRM114

If only we could make direct [near] realtime observations of the top 90 feet of the ocean looking at the wind, temperature, and wave height. Gosh, if we could do that maybe the description would read like this:

Then to dream.... maybe there would be some enterprising grad student who would visualize the data, maybe like this: earth :: an animated map of global wind and weather

Sigh. If it weren't for the tragic loss of the SOB MH370 the reporters showing off their 9th grade educations would be entertaining.

Right then! Back to chasing our tails!

patplan

Report: A Chinese patrol ship detects "pulse" signal in search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.



It is consistent with where this signal's frequency supposed to be found, at 37.5 kilohertz. All parties seemed to be cautiously optimistic that this is the black box signal they've been looking for since this past week.

"I have been advised that a series of sounds have been detected by a Chinese ship in the search area. The characteristics reported are consistent with the aircraft black box," Angus Houston of Joint Agency Coordination Centre said. The agency had also received reports of white objects sighted on the ocean surface about 90 kilometers (56 miles) from where the electronic signals were detected.

Honeywell Aerospace, which made the boxes in the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, said the Underwater Acoustic Beacons on both the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder operate at a frequency of 37.5 kilohertz plus or minus 1 kilohertz.

Waldock cautioned that "it's possible it could be an aberrant signal" from a nuclear submarine if there was one in the vicinity.

If the sounds can be verified, it would reduce the search area to about 10 square kilometers (4 square miles), Waldock said. Unmanned robot subs with sidescan sonar would then be sent into the water to try to locate the wreckage, he said.

John Goglia, a former U.S. National Transportation Safety Board member, called the report "exciting," but cautioned that "there is an awful lot of noise in the ocean."

"One ship, one ping doesn't make a success story," he said. "It will have to be explored. I guarantee you there are other resources being moved into the area to see if it can be verified."

patplan

Retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston confirmed this at a press conference in Perth, according to a report on the Sydney Morning Herald.

Houston said Australia’s Ocean Shield picked up the “acoustic detection” at an area some 300 nautical miles from where a Chinese vessel heard a similar electronic pulse yesterday.

“It's something that needs to be investigated. The search is a dynamic thing,” he was quoted as saying in the daily.

Yesterday, the Chinese ship Haixun 01 reported receiving two pulse signals at a 37.5kHz frequency, which is consistent with that of an aircraft's black box pinger, first on Friday and then again yesterday. Retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, who is co-ordinating the search, told reporters in Perth on Sunday the Chinese ship Haixun 01 had detected two "acoustic events" which provided "some promise" and required a full investigation.

The first signal was detected on Friday and the second, which lasted 90 seconds, was detected on Saturday within two kilometres of the original detection.

“The fact that we’ve had two detections, two acoustic events in that location, provides some promise,” Houston said at a press briefing in Perth. “We’re running out of time in terms of the battery life on the emergency locator beacon.”

rickair7777

Pretty darn unlikely, lets just say that's not a likely tonal off of a sub and I can't think of any good reason for anyone to spend the fuel to send a sub way down there anyway. There's nothing to see or do down there so no operational need, and there are plenty of better (and closer) places to do training. Exception would be a boat actually sent to look for MH370, but it would most certainly not be emitting that tonal...can't listen for something you're already emitting

37.5Khz was selected because it's unlikley to be caused by natural or other manmade sources. I'm pretty this is what they think it is.

SyGunson

Malacca Detour Sham Evidence



At Beijing on 21 March 2014 Malaysian Authorities gave a briefing about the radar plot of a so-called mystery aircraft detected flying through the Straits of Malacca when MH370 disappeared.

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The image of the military radar plot from RMAF Butterworth bears no relation to the claims made of an aircraft flying from VAMPI to GIVAL.

It does not corroborate claims by the Malaysian Government that MH370 flew from IGARI to VAMPI - GIVAL - IGREX.

This blog correctly identifies the falsehoods presented about an alleged detour through the Straits of Malacca:

MH370: Updated route, final radar plot (Updated) | Ogle Earth

In short there is no evidence MH370 ever turned west from IGARI and there is no reason to discount the eyewitness sighting by oil rig worker Mike McKay off south Vietnam of an aircraft briefly on fire.

Oil rig worker says he saw Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 burst into flames | News.com.au

Airhoss

Oh my goodness information from a BLOG!!! The sky is falling the sky is falling!!!!!

I've got an idea....Why don't we wait and see if they are actually picking up a signal from the aircraft. Until we find the aircraft and retrieve the FDR the CVR we won't really know what happened. And until that moment every and anything said, written, or talked about is simply guess work, AKA B.S!

mournlight

"Originally Posted by CRM114 This thread is nearly 1000 posts in and has degraded into the MODS beating up on a private pilot with a powerpoint slide and a conspiracy theory. Aside from the perverse entertainment it provides, why is this thread still open?"


I appreciate that it is still open. In spite of the few non-regulars who are fussed about, it feels like the most reliable source of information and comment I've found anywhere. It helps even us non-pilots wade through the bs. I see the updates on the news, and come straight away here to check in. Thanks, Mods, for allowing that ability. And thank you all for answering questions.

LightAttack

I really don't want to feed the troll, but "SHAM"-WOW! Absolute genius. I beg to differ with his PhD analysis, it isn't 6 hours 29 minutes, it's 6 hours 28 minutes due to increased Saharan dust in the air.

After an extensive search, I found the internet cafe where SpyGuy operates:

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