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jarretk 05-23-2014 08:52 AM

IAH Close call (according to media)
 
Just saw on the news in MSP that 2 united aircraft last month in IAH had "near miss" when they were both cleared for takeoff and one departed runway heading and the other was given a right turn by ATC instead of a left turn. According to the news the two aircraft got within a scary 4,200ft of eachother :eek: Somedays I think the media is just digging for any aviation item they can turn into a negative.

totaldigger 05-23-2014 09:18 AM

But not as scary as the United plane that "descended 600 feet in 60 seconds." Those poor passengers!

Dashdog 05-23-2014 05:36 PM

According to this, the separation was 400' vertical, and 0' lateral. I'd call that close.

Incident: United A320 and United A320 at Houston on May 8th 2014, near collision on initial climbs

DYNASTY HVY 05-23-2014 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by totaldigger (Post 1650080)
But not as scary as the United plane that "descended 600 feet in 60 seconds." Those poor passengers!

295 pax on a 57 ? I highly doubt that since UAL shows 216 and US Air shows 190 .:)
Bit surprised no one rebutted on this one .

FlyJSH 05-24-2014 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by Dashdog (Post 1650409)
According to this, the separation was 400' vertical, and 0' lateral. I'd call that close.

Incident: United A320 and United A320 at Houston on May 8th 2014, near collision on initial climbs

IF the controller issued a right turn to 340, perhaps reading back "right turn, the long way around" might have caught the error sooner.

FlyJSH 05-24-2014 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 1650425)
295 pax on a 57 ? I highly doubt that since UAL shows 216 and US Air shows 190 .:)
Bit surprised no one rebutted on this one .

184 lap children. Hey, it could happen.;)

jarretk 05-24-2014 07:41 AM

IAH Close call (according to media)
 
Now that I look at multiple articles some have 400 ft and others have way higher numbers. This one says 400ft vertically and .87 miles laterally, either way an oops on the controllers part.

http://m.click2houston.com/news/faa-investigating-nearcollision-between-2-planes-near-bush-iah/26137096

cardiomd 05-24-2014 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1650590)
184 lap children. Hey, it could happen.;)

Kind of like every commercial flight I seem to take in back. :eek:

With the screaming, and the barfing, and the nonstop crying packed into coach.

Seriously though, although the whole 600 ft in 60s has been beyond over-dramatized (has CNN thought of making a movie of it yet?) And that same passenger has been interviewed by several news outlets. :rolleyes: The pax may have felt a brief nose-down moment may have caused, say, .5g or so for an instant. Radar track would just average the whole descent rate so it may not show the instantaneous change.

rickair7777 05-24-2014 02:18 PM

Two airliners launched into the same chunk of terminal air is no bueno, regardless of the exact spacing. BTDT.

DYNASTY HVY 05-24-2014 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1650809)
Kind of like every commercial flight I seem to take in back. :eek:

With the screaming, and the barfing, and the nonstop crying packed into coach.

Seriously though, although the whole 600 ft in 60s has been beyond over-dramatized (has CNN thought of making a movie of it yet?) And that same passenger has been interviewed by several news outlets. :rolleyes: The pax may have felt a brief nose-down moment may have caused, say, .5g or so for an instant. Radar track would just average the whole descent rate so it may not show the instantaneous change.



It was a controlled descent and at least it was'nt a 30,000 ft descent in under 3 min.:eek:


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