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blaquehawk99 08-16-2015 06:32 PM

Two plane collision near San Diego
 
Condolences to the families of the pilots, crew, and passengers.

This is the second fast mover vs. Cessna in the last few weeks. I'm interested in knowing how this happened so that I can stay safe and pass some knowledge on to my future students. Looking forward to the NTSB report on these.

Four killed in a 2-plane collision near San Diego

rickair7777 08-16-2015 07:19 PM

Midairs keep happening in that corridor like clockwork. Pay attention out there on base and extended final [to Lindberg]. Also BUR...be afraid, very afraid, at BUR.

WhistlePig 08-16-2015 09:52 PM

The scuttlebutt is that there were 2 172's on final and the Sabreliner, on downwind, was directed to follow #2. You can guess what "may" have happened next

cardiomd 08-17-2015 04:57 PM

Very sad. I've been in and out of that field several times (Brown). You can see Tijuana airstrip from the air a few miles away. Fortunately it has not been high traffic times when I visited and I don't recall it being anywhere busy. If what you say is true sounds like the typical sequence misunderstanding at a delta.

Sequencing, not separation services, are provided at a delta. :(

Probably obvious, but one thing I've noticed at fields like this is in standard pattern, when tower instructs or somebody calls base, and you're on downwind, look to the left AND to the right to find that traffic on base. Some people make ridiculously huge patterns and will be on a 3 mile left base when "closed circuit."

Worse is when people do this at uncontrolled fields, and since "base" beats "downwind" every time you often have to do weird things to sequence properly and that adds to risk.

Surprised you spend time in the land of the puddle jumpers, blaquehawk, stay safe.

UAL T38 Phlyer 08-17-2015 05:03 PM

The pilot of the Sabreliner was James "Dick" Hale, a highly respected retired Wild Weasel driver, and great guy.

RIP, Dick. Nickel on the grass.

say again 08-17-2015 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 1951236)
The pilot of the Sabreliner was James "Dick" Hale, a highly respected retired Wild Weasel driver, and great guy.

RIP, Dick. Nickel on the grass.

Was he a military contractor? Otherwise he was not on board.

3 of 5 plane collision victims identified | SanDiegoUnionTribune.com

UAL T38 Phlyer 08-17-2015 05:52 PM

I learned through a mil network. It said he was the pilot; he might be the contractor.

Unless he was in the Cessna.

Albief15 08-18-2015 07:13 PM

Igor Pearcy….former F-15 student of mine and later a WIC grad was onboard. I think he was the PIC. Left a wife and 2 kids… RIP

cardiomd 08-19-2015 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 1951975)
Igor Pearcy….former F-15 student of mine and later a WIC grad was onboard. I think he was the PIC. Left a wife and 2 kids… RIP

Qualcomm exec was in the cessna.

Pilot killed in mid-air crash was Qualcomm executive | SanDiegoUnionTribune.com

cardiomd 09-02-2015 02:05 PM

Not too much information in the early report. Looks like both on downwind.

http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...20150816X60452


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