I know right? “Results Matter”?

After the wave of anger runs it’s course, what is it we’re trying to change? Most importantly how?

You can stop pretending this is complicated. We're trying to replace a cult of personality (TI) and corruption with fresh blood and better representation to avoid debacles like TA1. If you want to see where we are headed refer to what happened after DAL TA1. This process while not easy is healthy.

“I know we’re all mad at King George NOW. but really, what choice do we have? Break away from England? Please! Who’s going to lead us then? We’re better off just giving them what they want!”

-NASC

Look I’m not an AWAX apologist or anything but I think their point is “it’s easy to tear down the system, it’s hard to tear down the system and replace it with something better.” That doesn’t mean we don’t tear down the system, it means we need to be very strategic and mindful of those who seek power in the vacuum. The devil we know is bad but we need to make sure the next devil isn’t worse.

I am all for the recall efforts and I think drastic changes need to occur. I’m also not blind to the fact that opportunists will jump on this to seize power and they may not be any better.

I was on this MEC and there is no strategy other than getting Insler elected ALPA President.

Then don't vote for whoever you view as 'opportunists' IF they run and IF current reps are recalled. Better yet, encourage sharp newbies to run and help them get elected. It simply cannot get any worse than it is now. Our union is being run by a cult that not only discounts members' input, but works for company interests and against the pilots they are supposed to represent. If you don't believe it compare the company's opening letter to the TA.

Yeah nothing I said disagrees with anything you’re saying.

Actually, you said replacements could be worse and I said the opposite.

If American politics is any indication, people will absolutely cut off their nose to spite their face. So, Jerry, while many LEC reps are far from ideal, we actually could do much worse.

This has been a litmus test.

If you heard/read that I’m not in favor of recall, then your brain has been warped by our binary culture.

The point is to proceed with caution and not elect the most bombastic anti-TI candidate.

You don’t think, out of 11,000+ people, you couldn’t find anyone worse than the current reps? GMAFB.

Replacements could be worse, which is why people need to be informed and involved beyond a simple recall. I’m not saying don’t recall, I’m all for it. We just need to see it all the way through to replacement with quality reps.

I don’t know why anyone would find that statement controversial unless they were hoping to weasel their way into a role they aren’t qualified for solely based on riding the anti-TI/TA wave.

100% truth. United pilots and their contract be damned.

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