Which units are they trying to close?

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One source says Ft. Smith, Selfridge and Ft. Wayne for the guard A-10 closures.
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Quote: 5+1+1=/ 6

Let's BRAC units that we just spent a ton of money to retrain on new jets (via BRAC). Brilliant!
They didn't spend any more money. The hours were going to get flown no matter who flew them. Kind of like saying sending a guy to training cost money. It does in the real world. In the military the money is spent on Oct 1. So either way, the money was getting spent. I've stopped giving a damn about saving $. Impossible for the bros to do that.
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Quote: They didn't spend any more money. The hours were going to get flown no matter who flew them. Kind of like saying sending a guy to training cost money. It does in the real world. In the military the money is spent on Oct 1. So either way, the money was getting spent. I've stopped giving a damn about saving $. Impossible for the bros to do that.
Example: Martinsburg, WV.

They had C-130s. Their congressional powerhouse got them the C-5 when their herks left, along with a runway extension and incredible amount of infrastructure funding that I've heard was in the hundreds of millions of dollars. 5 years later, their C-5s are on the chopping block.

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More than 280 aircraft have been identified in the current budget submission for
elimination across all Air Force components over the next five years. This includes 123 fighters (102 A‐10s and 21 older F‐16s), 133 mobility aircraft (27 C‐5As, 65 C‐130s, 20 KC‐135s, and 21 C‐27s), and 30 select ISR systems (18 RQ‐4 Block 30s, 11 RC‐26s, and one E‐8 damaged beyond repair).
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systems (18 RQ‐4 Block 30s, 11 RC‐26s, and one E‐8 damaged beyond repair).

They're going to kill off the RC-26 program? So they (Big Blue) really are out to gut the guard (and ARC in general)? That was in my future plans... probably not anymore. The way it's shaping up in my area, there won't be many choices for airframes to fly. Either the bases are going to close, or the airplanes are going away.
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Quote: More than 280 aircraft have been identified in the current budget submission for
elimination across all Air Force components over the next five years. This includes 123 fighters (102 A‐10s and 21 older F‐16s), 133 mobility aircraft (27 C‐5As, 65 C‐130s, 20 KC‐135s, and 21 C‐27s), and 30 select ISR systems (18 RQ‐4 Block 30s, 11 RC‐26s, and one E‐8 damaged beyond repair).
Holy smokes, those C-27s are brand new! Well, if big blue decides to cut 'em the USCG sure could use them vice the CASA 235s we have. Would trade in an instant!
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Quote: More than 280 aircraft have been identified in the current budget submission for
elimination across all Air Force components over the next five years. This includes 123 fighters (102 A‐10s and 21 older F-16s)), 133 mobility aircraft (27 C‐5As, 65 C‐130s, 20 KC‐135s, and 21 C‐27s), and 30 select ISR systems (18 RQ‐4 Block 30s, 11 RC‐26s, and one E‐8 damaged beyond repair).
What block of F-16?
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Ongoing stupidity
MRB is losing the C5 at the end of FY12 (fair odds that they get C17s). Its too bad about mrb those guys are still a real guard unit- like they all should be. Third hand info as well..all of the state brass knows which units are going to get chopped- it should be announced this month. The AF wants to gut the guard just look at the rainbow deal they stuffed all of the tanker units with. The C27 is another prime example, didn't Youngstown just recently acquire them? Now they might go away all together. I bet the big blue machine will be offering up a record pilot bonus in three to four years.


Quote: Example: Martinsburg, WV.

They had C-130s. Their congressional powerhouse got them the C-5 when their herks left, along with a runway extension and incredible amount of infrastructure funding that I've heard was in the hundreds of millions of dollars. 5 years later, their C-5s are on the chopping block.

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Quote: The C27 is another prime example, didn't Youngstown just recently acquire them? Now they might go away all together.
You are thinking of Mansfield, Baltimore has them aswell. Both were C-130 units. Both were BRAC'd in 2005. It would be nice to survive the next rounds of BRACs, but the writing appears to be on the wall.
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For all of the bubbas out there counting in c17 replacement airframes had better get a good count of the ones already in the mix. 222 was already the buy. There are no extras. Which unit that already has C17s is going to give them up to replace your C5As or Herks? Better stand up a light a match for the tails you currently have because this looks like an easy way for Big Blue to have a BRAC without having a BRAC. In other words, we're taking your jets but we don't have anything else for you.

Specifically, for those C5A units out there that has leadership BSing folks about the possibility of inbound C17s, follow the money. The bases that are getting them have already been announced and POMd.

The numbers don't add up. Protect yourselves.
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