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Originally Posted by Jones14
He said it was either a flat spin, or an inverted spin.
This leads me to believe he has no clue what he is talking about.
2StgTurbine explained it already so no need to repeat. But what he said on flat/inverted spin is right.
I do have few things to clarify:
1) Ailerons into or out of the spin does nothing for the stage of the spin. What I mean is if you are not in the developed stage, applying ailerons won't get you there. They merely tighten or flatten the spin, regardless of stage.
2) A 172, loaded in the utility category in the most aft CG position, will not develop in my experience. I have 100 or so spins in this aircraft, most of which were spent trying to get the spin to develop. That jagged, for lack of a better word, feeling you get while spinning is the mark of an incipient spin. The wing is stalling, snapping over for about a half turn, and then the stall breaks to stall again and repeat the cycle. A fully developed spin gives you the feeling of 1G with some, constant, lateral load based on the speed of rotation.
3) A 172 can get into an inverted spin. You have to swap rudder direction though.
IE spinning to the right, flipped inverted requires left rudder.
Edit: This is why an inverted spin can be so confusing to a pilot. You apply opposite rudder, but before letting the spin stop/slow rotation you apply full forward elevator. The aircraft flips inverted and you have the proper rudder to excite that inverted spin. You don't like the feeling of the spin speeding up so you do opposite rudder again and yank back, now your upright again with rudder in the direction of the spin, whoops. Rinse and repeat till you slam into the ground.
As for your 150, that is a far squirlier aircraft than the 172. It can get into inverted spin but, I suspect, lacks the power and control throw to enter a flat spin.