anyone been given date for next training on the 767

how much of the 767 trips are oceanic travel

4 upcoming 767 class dates until mid-october.

long-haul oceanic? not many.

Any word on when 747 classes will begin again?

I live in Houston, I understand if hired at Atlas, I'd be based in either ANC or CVG.

Any words of advice on whether to wait to apply until 747 classes begin again or just apply now and if called, interview for next available class?

What do contract talks look like? Does it look like a new contract is ever going to happen?

No word on any new 747 classes. If you are interested I would apply now...and also everywhere else. Depending on your qualifications/experience, you may be able to pass on this job.

Contract talks look 336 days late as of today. If past performance predicts future results, I'd say they are not going anywhere fast. The CEO as of yesterday doesn't think we are underpaid. I'm hoping for a contract in place by early next summer at best.

Our CEO Joe H thinks we are overpaid as well at ABX. Additionally, our new guy pres (the one you guys retired/fired) is lockstep with his boss in that thinking. It's gonna get interesting in 4th quarter.

Couldn't agree more!

I highly doubt there will be any more new classes either for the 74 or 76 this year. The company wants "all hands on deck" for the fourth quarter.

Well, there are 4 announced 767 classes between now and mid-October.

747 is done for the year, they tell us, but they recently hired 100 FOs in 3 months (plus more before that) so OE is likely to become a logjam.

And you aren't paid MMG until after OE correct?

Just wondering where you got this tidbit about not being underpaid from?

Secondhand from the employee exchange yesterday...someone asked a question about our pilots being 30% below industry standard (30% is an understatement) and he said something to the effect of "I don't accept that figure."