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Quote: Except Hawaiian and UPS everyone has been making it right. This isn’t entry level. Guys coming to Spirit should be done paying dues
The problem is Spirit management has a regional mentality. I think they want to run Spirit like a Regional, get as many pilots to come over at the lower rate. Then when the pool of new hires runs dry they will offer some type of bonus or an LOA to get new hire classes filled.
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Health insurance for new hires
Quote: The reason you’re making that money is because those before you chose to pull the ladder up behind them. Now you are advocating the same behavior. Why should good pilots have to walk a mile in my shoes? My shoes are garbage, I wouldn’t want anyone to walk in them if I could prevent it.

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THIS! I see so much of it the pulling up of the ladder, and it annoys me, esp when it is done by people who have been in the industry only a few years and expect something. I’ve been furloughed, by “backflows” after 9/11 then had the flow taken away altogether and I still won’t pull the ladder up behind me, there's no reason not to watch out for junior folks.



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Quote: The problem is Spirit management has a regional mentality. I think they want to run Spirit like a Regional, get as many pilots to come over at the lower rate. Then when the pool of new hires runs dry they will offer some type of bonus or an LOA to get new hire classes filled.
Glad someone else gets it. I'm not saying I want pull up the proverbial ladder, but I sure as hell don't want to be making less than the pilots under me on the seniority list. And yes that does happen. It is simple supply and demand economics. This place is a glorified regional, and when the classes start drying up the money will come out.

You don't have to like it, but it is the truth. You've got to look out for number one because these companies don't give a rat's arse about you.
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Quote: Glad someone else gets it. I'm not saying I want pull up the proverbial ladder, but I sure as hell don't want to be making less than the pilots under me on the seniority list. And yes that does happen. It is simple supply and demand economics. This place is a glorified regional, and when the classes start drying up the money will come out.

You don't have to like it, but it is the truth. You've got to look out for number one because these companies don't give a rat's arse about you.
It is the “looking out for numero uno” attitude that makes us easy prey. Management knows your greed and you are their puppet. Look outside your little circle and bring everyone to the top of the hill, you’ll be there as well.
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Don’t act like new hires got totally passed over. They finish training with an accumalted sick bank and will earn more upon completion of training than anyone prior, and they can take a personal medical leave after 90 days instead of 12 months.

If that’s not enough to attract, let the company come back to the table.
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Quote: I gotta say the nicest thing about training pay was going to my landlord and paying him with my sick bank. I remember shaking hands with the manager of a McDonald's because he was so happy I spent sick bank money at her store.
My FO says, “ then by all means, tell him to keep me at 38 bucks an hour, that’ll help”.
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Quote: My FO says, “ then by all means, tell him to keep me at 38 bucks an hour, that’ll help”.
“Your” FO?
I kid.
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I always thought it was funny when guys use a possessive when describing a colleague
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Quote: I always thought it was funny when guys use a possessive when describing a colleague
But he is MY colleague....
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