Unfortunately, LU is the only university flight training program nearby me (San Antonio). It would be nice if there was a local community college that had such a program.

Honestly, I'd rather have the experience that comes from more hours.

500 hours less for ATP *sounds* like a great shortcut until you realize that most students CFI through Liberty and don't get much flight time compared to busy part 61 CFIs. You're not getting to the ATP any faster, you're just getting there with less hours.

Like anything, this is a judgment call. Just providing a point of view from someone outside of the Liberty system that listens to what folks inside the system are saying. They're asking for a heck of a lot of money, I'd want to know before laying down that kind of cash (or more likely agreeing to massive student loan debts).

It is a great shortcut. Get the degree and instruct Part 61 at a local FBO and you will be set.


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This is exactly what I mean. A lot of flight schools near me (not ATP) instruct both 61 and 141....and aren’t directly tied to Liberty. They are flight training affiliates. 500 hours at at least $150 an hour...I’m no mathematician, but that’s a few bucks.

I already have all of my flight ratings, but i'm doing Liberty Online. The coursework is surprisingly easy. I think it's even easier than the homework I was getting from my local community college. I also really like the 8 week courses, thats nice.

I'm looking forward to the life time experience credits it gives to cut down on college requirements. A piece of paper is a piece of paper right?

That's good to hear. I'll be starting there in about a month. About how many hours a week do you spend studying/doing homework?

lol honestly, I do one assignment a day and that's it. Each assignment takes maybe 1 hour. Right now i'm just finishing up the remaining general education classes that I have to do. For whatever reason, these classes are even easier than the ones I took at community college. Unless i'm missing something entirely, I won't have final exams in either of the courses i'm doing right now. I looked at the course content and the syllabus and there is nothing noted about any final exams. Which is great. There are weekly quizzes, but they are easy and many are open note. So I haven't needed to do any real studying so far this semester.

Sounds like you didn’t get accepted. You just be pretty bad to not get in...with a 90% acceptance rate an all. 🤦‍♂️

Did the program fall of 2017 to spring of 2020. It was my second bachelor's degree.

Positives- R-ATP completed at 1000 hours, good flight affiliate with nice planes (most of my training was G1000), 141 training, able to finance with student loans, able to do it part time around my full time career work schedule with a young family.

Negatives- Could have done it far cheaper part 61- but it sounds like Biden will chop 10k off. Some extra classes that were Liberty specific for their BA were needed, but 80% of my other classes transferred right in. The online classes had some busy work assignments requiring extra work. The ground courses at the time I went were just from King Schools.

Overall it was a positive experience. Although now I am sitting at RATP minimums waiting for a job- which I thought by now I would be a few months into the new career. So I am glad to not be a CFI for another 500 hours, but the time I thought I would save is lost.