I commute on a route thats very heavy with AA and Envoy commuters. Over the past couple of months, I've run across more than a few new Envoy pilots who have been checked in as a D2 for multiple flights between the same city pair, on the same day. One individual was listed, and checked in for every flight of the day.

Review the employee travel policies, the company does look for this stuff, and other employees may turn you in. You can get your travel privileges suspended/revoked, or possibly fired.

Here's a tip.... sign in for the later one and if you get done on time or early then you can ask the gate agent to roll you over to the earlier flight.

Sign in time is kept. Only issue is if everyone started doing this the inaccuracy of standby flight load & planning expectations go down the squatter. Hard to imagine but possibly more deplorable than it already is.

OP please report them and names to your union rep, Jumpseat Committee chair, Pro Standards, etc.

If you recognize the names. If it continues take it to management. Hell we all know the rules.

PSA should know very well It’s not cool stepping on other pilots....

Pretty sure PSA was meant as "Public Service Announcement"...

I agree. Just a good low jab opportunity at PSA for a relative title sake.

WO Pilots should definitely stop stepping on each other overall. Jumpseat etiquette, D1/D2, A12, double listing’s, contracts, concessions. No matter the carrier. OP called out envoy as he/she should.

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You want to go to pro standards? Lol, tell the union. Or better still, sack up and tell them directly. Maybe show them how to jumpseat OAL so they aren’t stuck commuting on the world’s most oversold airline. They don’t tell us anything in indoc, the pilots in question probably don’t know.

That is most certainly correct. There’s really no benefit to listing for multiple flights. Doing so just shows they don’t really know how the system works.

And even if they were ‘told’ during indoc, they were getting a lot of information at once. It’s pretty forgivable if they miss some detail on travel policy. So yeah, tell them yourself or take it to the union. No reason to get the company involved.

Pro standards is the union.

Unless things have changed recently, the company won't see it that way. They don't have any sense of humor about travel abuse, and over the years at Eagle and AA, I've known several people who have had their travel privileges suspended.

The company monitors for multiple listings, and now we hear no show bookings (list/check in for early flight, no show but get rolled over to later flight, with original check in time). Playing non-rev games isn't a good idea.

I'll continue to try and talk to anyone who is doing stuff like that. Do you guys have pilot mentors for the new hires? That might be something they can address.