How do your trips pay? - Page 2 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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Ala5ka , 10-03-2018 06:57 PM

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If air group pays horizon the same way they pay us at Alaska, then the pay is paid in United States Currency via direct deposit. Hope this helps.

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DashAviator , 10-04-2018 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ala5ka

If air group pays horizon the same way they pay us at Alaska, then the pay is paid in United States Currency via direct deposit. Hope this helps.

Hey, we also get four day-old crew meals, digital trophies, and random calls from Crew Scheduling

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Ala5ka , 10-04-2018 06:29 AM

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The gifts that keep on giving!!!

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Hey, we also get four day-old crew meals, digital trophies, and random calls from Crew Scheduling

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RemiDenton , 01-04-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem

Building flight time is a slow crawl on the Q. Been here for 18 months with 120 prior 121 time and am still 100 hours away from 1000 121 time

Are the 175 guys feeling the same vibe or is this just the Q? I’m at decision time for aircraft in the hire process and data on this isn’t published much here. Is the Q getting better, especially with holiday flying?

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snackysmores , 01-04-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RemiDenton

QOL on the Q has been on a steady decline ever since the first jet arrived, and will continue to only get worse. Impossible to build seniority as they keep parking planes.. 5-6 leg days are the new norm.. at least there's 4.2 min pay per day but you will probably block around 3 - 3.5 hours of flying in 5-6 legs..

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RemiDenton , 01-04-2019 10:19 AM

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Thanks for quick replies snacky. Sounds like a long term commute regardless if you aren’t in Sea or PDX on either jet.

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snackysmores , 01-04-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RemiDenton

Thanks for quick replies snacky. Sounds like a long term commute regardless if you aren’t in Sea or PDX on either jet.

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#18

Dashdrvr , 01-05-2019 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be

At the end of a trip you look at your block hours, your duty time for the trip, and total time away from base. You take the duty hours and divide it by two, and tafb and divide it by four. Whatever is the greatest out of the three is what you get paid.

But when you look at your block hours make sure youre incorporating the 4.2 in it.

Say you had a trip that looked like this:

Day 1:
3.0 hours block
9 hours duty

Day 2:
5.0 hours block
11 hours duty

Day 3:
2.0 block
5 hours duty

Total block is 13.4 with the 4.2.
Total duty is 25 hours, divide that by two and you get 12.5.
Let's total tafb is 60 hours. Divide that by four and you get 15 hours.

You will get paid 15 hours for the trip because it's the greater of all the amounts.

I believe your calculations are way off. The calculation is on a daily basis. Your calculations appear to be averaged over the trip. Using your example.
Day1: will pay greater of block, duty x .5 or 4.2. Answer is 4.5 (50% duty)
Day 2:Answer is 5.5(50% duty)
Day 3: Answer is 4.2(minimum daily guarantee). Block is 2.0 hours, 50% of duty is 2.5 thus minimum daily guarantee applies.
Total trip credit is 14.2 hours provided Time Away from Base doesn't exceed 58 hours.
My calculations are for the Q400 only.
Jet gets greater of Block, 50%of duty, or 25% of Time Away From Base averaged over the trip.
Day trips pay minimum 4.0

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ASpilot2be , 01-06-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dashdrvr

I was using pilot math it seems.

Upon further review a trips SCH value is the greater of:
1. The sum of all calendar days SCH within a trip pairing or
2. 25% of the trip time or
3. 50% of the actual trip duty time.

So it seem it is trip duty time.

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snackysmores , 01-06-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be

I was using pilot math it seems.

Upon further review a trips SCH value is the greater of:
1. The sum of all calendar days SCH within a trip pairing or
2. 25% of the trip time or
3. 50% of the actual trip duty time.

So it seem it is trip duty time.

For the Q400 it's either block pay 1:1, duty 2:1, or TAFB 4:1...

So on your trip key look at the pay code, B, D, or T...

Then add any extra time the 4.2 per day adds...

Example

Day 1: 3.0 block
Day 2: 5.0 block
Day 3: 5.0 block

Total block: 13, total pay 14.2.