Can anyone give me some more information about the CRJ? At what rate are they being moved to PSA? What is it like as an FO? Flight time per month? Displacement? Thanks in advance for any info.

This changes constantly. Keep in mind that for a while we were tracking that the CRJs would be gone by the end of 2018. Not going to happen.

Per a message to the pilots, transfers occur at one aircraft per month until sometime in spring. Then transfers will resume again around the end of summer. CRJ flying is currently expected to continue into early 2020.

Looking at the list, a junior FO on Reserve, average time is between 30 and 40 hours per month. (~400 hours in a year)

FOs cannot bid off of equipment. They must upgrade or be displaced (equipment goes away) in order to change airframes.

There is very little hiring into the CRJ FO seat right now so any new FOs on the CRJ can expect to be on reserve until the equipment goes away. (Maybe early 2020?)

Good luck!

The long term plan (likely by 2020) will continue to be all CRJs transferred to PSA, replaced by E-175s. Speed is based on delivery of E-175s, training capacity at Envoy, and recruitment and training capacity at PSA.

There are further plans to replace some more of the E-140/145s with E-175s. I don’t know how many or the timing; just after all the CRJs are transfered.

My source is one of the highest training pilots with Envoy.

The timing on the 175 delivery has been well advertised and those have historically been pretty accurate. Most indications are little to no total fleet growth and we are slated to get more 175s than we have CRJs. Envoy (I think all levels from reserve FOs to training dept to MGT) would like to see them gone ASAP. A small and dying fleet helps no one except a few guys that want to retire without changing airframes.

Your flight time on the crj will vary. Some months you might fly 5 hours, others you might get close to 30. You won’t have any movement so your seniority means nothing.

Good luck.

Great airplane to fly. But the QoL on it will be very crappy until they’re gone. Avoid at all costs.

I don't know if I buy the no fleet growth thing co-wide. That's based on the ExpressJet WSCODs AND the new widebody luxury liners being balanced by transfers to Piedmont. Seems unlikely bro.

The CRJ is a black hole though, as others have said. My CRJ reserve bros do seem to fly slightly more than us 145 FO's, but we're talking averaging 15/hrs a month instead of 5-10, and unlike the 145 there's no hope of ever escaping to a glorious line of 5 back-to-back 1hr15min turns in NYC.

Disclosure* I don’t work for Envoy, but... if you live close to base, like to be at home, aaand (big and) don’t need the money. Then reserve on a dying airplane (read staying at home getting paid for nothing while toting mainline flight bennies and building seniority), isn’t a bad gig.

*this affects a statistically insignificant group of people, if you are one of these people pat yourself on the back. You’ve earned it. Really. Enjoy your time at home, on call.

Agreed. It’s a shame what’s going on with this plane but if you live a commutable distance away and have another job then this particular position in the company would make this a side gig and you could work another flexible job and make some good cash


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Agreed. It’s a shame what’s going on with this plane but if you live a commutable distance away and have another job then this particular position in the company would make this a side gig and you could work another flexible job and make some good cash


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