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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Every single topic here has already been discussed 50,000 times on APC. SW bore the brunt of the cost to get rid of the extra fleet type.
Well that didn't answer the question.
Looking at Delta's 2017 Annual Filing with the SEC it looks like they've got $1 Billion in capital leases including Flight (Aircraft), and Ground Equipment. Included in that is about $100 Million per year for 2018 and 2019 and going down from there to about $24 million in 2022. They have 45 aircraft on capital lease including 15 717's.
There are an additional 151 aircraft on operating leases including 73 717's (I'm guessing these are the AirTran 717's). Operating lease costs for 2018 are $1.4 billion. How much of that is the 717's? What's a typical lease rate for that type of aircraft and therefore is a "good bargain" or "cheap"?
If you know the answers to these questions, you're wasting your talents in the cockpit, you should be making a lot more in management.
My point being, there's a lot of stuff that gets said here and among pilots that may have absolutely no basis in fact. I've heard the 717's were leased for cheap too, is that true? No idea.
With regard to CASM, I doubt if we're really capable of calculating a useful CASM for most of the aircraft we're discussing, so saying this aircraft is cheaper than that aircraft on this route is pure guessing. There's more that goes into it than someone with an extremely basic understanding of CASM (myself included) is going to be able to calculate.