You could have just said ALPA

Um no. Sadly not even this.

If you want to fly a triple in the ACMI world, I'd suggest going to Kalitta or Omni. Much better contracts and labor relations.

Well, since "all is lost" for lack of a better term, can we stop paying the ridiculous assessment that we have been paying for close to half a decade that has netted us zip, zero, squat! Thousands paid with absolutely NOTHING to show for it.

If we did that at least we would be able to put something back in our pockets.

If the Union cronies tell us they still need it, I think it's time for:

D E C E R T.

If we end up with Arbitration and no vote from the pilot group, Teamsters time at Atlas/Southern may indeed be voted on. Ala Kalitta...

It should be voted no matter what! Never saw a conflict of interest at this level before....

Pretty sure one of the big reasons the company has gone so far and lost so much flying in the pursuit of amalgamation is to get the union decertified. There was no downside and so much to gain by it.

Yeah these guys would be playing right into the companies hands. I can’t think of anything that would give the company more leverage than the unions own membership pushing for a decert in the middle of negotiations.

Union busting 101. Fact is even with this ruling the union can appeal and otherwise drag this out for quite some time. Even *if* the union didn’t resist its 9 months of negotiation plus yet another arbitration process that will take well over a year.

With 20 737s coming, amazon expanding as fast a possible and DHL 777s just lying around I wonder if the company can wait to see it through. Just to get this far has taken years and utterly depleted the pilot pool.

However they do get to shake up the resolve of the pilots just in time for the home stretch of negotiations. They know how pilots work, this has all happened many times before.

Section 1.F.2.b.iii requires the arbitrator to issue the final ruling within 60 days of the start of arbitration, which in turn must start within 30 days of the end of the 9 month negotiating window.

The time line is fixed, and as I recall it was respected by all parties the last time we went down this road. Union starts the clock by presenting the merged list, 9 months of negotiations, 30 days to spin up the arbitrator, 60 days for the arbitrator to do his thing. Done.

This process is designed to be quick, as least by RLA standards.