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Originally Posted by deus ex machina
It's not what you fly, it's who you fly for....
reading this thread, Atlas guys are in a netherworld... how can you explain something is better out there when Atlas guys don't even know what better is....
If they want to be convinced that ALPA sucks, go for it... but ALPA sucks less than everyone else, simply due to the resources... the IBT doesn't have near the funds, institutional knowledge and resources as ALPA... If you don't have the funds and ability to strike the company owns the negotiation process.. combine that with Trump NMB and the only thing that is going to compel management to negotiate is labor peace and stability... if they don't see that value then you guys are screwed....
As I said... WB FOs at my carrier make more than B747 CAs at Atlas.. and that is just the pay rate... the work rules, benefits and retirement will make you weep.
But hey, you're flying the Queen.
Not quite sure what point you are making here.
Atlas pilots absolutely do know what "better" is which is why those of us who haven't yet left, have chosen to stay and fight, or simply can't leave for one reason or another are fighting tooth and nail for a better contract. We continuously try to point out to Atlas applicants that they should NEVER take a job because of the equipment. We say this over and over.
As for ALPA, virtually every Atlas pilot has been an ALPA member at one point or another. We all know what ALPA is and what they have to offer. And we know that a union has practically nothing to do with the national organization and everything to do with the pilot group and their local leadership. I say this as a former 20+ year ALPA member and now as a 7+ year Teamster.
As far as a strike goes, the size of the coffers has nothing to do with whether or not Atlas pilots go on strike. You should read up a little on what conditions must exist in order for a pilot union to go on strike. It has nothing to do with financial resources.
Now, I don't know what airline you fly for and I don't really care. What I do know is that you don't really need to come to the Atlas pilot web boards and brag about just how much more you make and how much better your working conditions are. We are all very much aware that this is true at most other airlines.
If, on the other hand, you ever have something constructive or encouraging to say, then by all means, let us know!