Hiring / training
04-08-2022, 05:38 AM
#2681
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You can always download a lights and switches app on your iPad if you're feeling truly motivated. It's just rote memorization what every switch does and isn't company specific. I can't remember what the name of it's called but there is a pretty good one out there that costs money but well worth it.
04-08-2022, 05:45 AM
#2682
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Originally Posted by therapysession
You can always download a lights and switches app on your iPad if you're feeling truly motivated. It's just rote memorization what every switch does and isn't company specific. I can't remember what the name of it's called but there is a pretty good one out there that costs money but well worth it.
04-08-2022, 05:55 AM
#2683
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Position: A320 Gear Getter
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Originally Posted by catrapilot
Hello
Can someone please give some insight into the training schedule in Denver --2022?
how long is INDOC training? FTDs and SIM?
How long/ how many legs IOE can be?
Is Ipad provided ?
Any particular subjects/topics to study before ?
Any particular recomendations before going DEN?
TIA
Can someone please give some insight into the training schedule in Denver --2022?
how long is INDOC training? FTDs and SIM?
How long/ how many legs IOE can be?
Is Ipad provided ?
Any particular subjects/topics to study before ?
Any particular recomendations before going DEN?
TIA
04-08-2022, 08:16 AM
#2684
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Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,089
Originally Posted by DamnThatWasFast
Recently had two friends interview. Both disclosed their early training failures before getting the interview and before traveling to Denver. One wasn't even interviewed, turned away at the door basically. The other said he had a very strong interview in his opinion, good feedback from interview team but was told he was a liability to the training department with his previous failures. This is despite having gotten 2 type ratings, and zero failures in the past 7 years of flying. He was told come back in 6 moths. Ummm.... are those failures gonna just disappear in 6 months? Not exactly the way to handle attracting new candidates. I am sure that these two guys will dissuade many others from even applying. Pure D!ck move to bring these guys out, have them spend time and money knowing they had the records they had to a) not even interview one and b) tell the other thanks but come back in 6 mos like his record was magically gonna fix itself.
More anti Frontier BS.
04-08-2022, 11:09 AM
#2685
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Originally Posted by dracir1
You shall be there forever. And you shall like it....
No seriously, Indoc/systems is about 3 weeks. FTD/Sims are about 1.5 weeks and usually (but not always) start right after indoc/systems. IOE comes after your checkride and LOFT of course. It's all up to scheduling.
No seriously, Indoc/systems is about 3 weeks. FTD/Sims are about 1.5 weeks and usually (but not always) start right after indoc/systems. IOE comes after your checkride and LOFT of course. It's all up to scheduling.
Originally Posted by EMB120IP
Indoc is 3 weeks, M-F with weekends off. Hotels still being provided from what I’m aware of
FTD- 6 sessions. Some days off in-between. Typical schedule is 3 or 4 on, 2 to 4 off, 3 on (or combination thereof).
SIM is 8 sessions, similar days on/off layout as FTDs. 9th is checkride
Expect total time to be 2 months in training
OE legs are whatever they are. No min/max number. Expect 3 to 4 trips on OE
IPAD provided
I don’t recommend looking over internet gouge (limitations/mem items as they aren’t necessarily the same as ours. Limitations and mem items are typically covered in class by the instructor to help explain some of them. There’s some discussions about providing these beforehand in the near future, which would be handy IMO
Theres nothing wrong with watching videos on how the FMAs work, or some basics on how the systems work, but as for memorizing non-company info…don’t waste brain cells!
FTD- 6 sessions. Some days off in-between. Typical schedule is 3 or 4 on, 2 to 4 off, 3 on (or combination thereof).
SIM is 8 sessions, similar days on/off layout as FTDs. 9th is checkride
Expect total time to be 2 months in training
OE legs are whatever they are. No min/max number. Expect 3 to 4 trips on OE
IPAD provided
I don’t recommend looking over internet gouge (limitations/mem items as they aren’t necessarily the same as ours. Limitations and mem items are typically covered in class by the instructor to help explain some of them. There’s some discussions about providing these beforehand in the near future, which would be handy IMO
Theres nothing wrong with watching videos on how the FMAs work, or some basics on how the systems work, but as for memorizing non-company info…don’t waste brain cells!
Originally Posted by therapysession
You can always download a lights and switches app on your iPad if you're feeling truly motivated. It's just rote memorization what every switch does and isn't company specific. I can't remember what the name of it's called but there is a pretty good one out there that costs money but well worth it.
Originally Posted by stang
It's called A320Cockpit .. I have it and like it. There is also a new hire F9 Poolies group on FB worth joining if you are in an upcoming class.
Originally Posted by DamnThatWasFast
Not a whole lot to prep for as they really spoon feed you. The lights and switches app someone previously recommended is good. (you'll get this free however on your company ipad) If you are super motivated, there is a company called www.1stepprep.com they have a full systems course and oral prep that guarantees you will pass your oral. I did it prior to going to training because I had a lot of time off, $199 for three months access. The videos are engaging and easy to watch, complete oral prep video that goes over answers to oral questions and "preferred answers". Made the type ride and oral a non event for me. It's taught by two spirit guys and is put together well. Not an "approved technique" but you could split it with someone. Once I got to ground school, the classes just reinforced what I had already learned watching the videos. As someone already said, don't worry about the limitations because various companies have different ones - weird I know. Good luck.
Thank y'all, I have started watching some CBT videos and checking the flows. I'll take your advice into account.
04-10-2022, 06:15 AM
#2686
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Position: A320 Gear Getter
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Originally Posted by hercretired
This would never be stated on an interview, to an applicant, during the interview. In addition, in today's legal/HR environment, such a statement would never be given as a reason for failing the interview, which was unlikely staffed with anyone from the training department itself.
More anti Frontier BS.
More anti Frontier BS.
04-10-2022, 07:26 AM
#2687
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Posts: 1,345
Originally Posted by DamnThatWasFast
I'm just telling you what two separate people said in two separate interviews. I'm not anti frontier. They were both interviewed by the person that goes by their nick name.
Meanwhile, we remain at the bottom of the barrel. I suspect we will NEVER hit hiring/retention targets until conditions improve OR other airlines fail. The market dictates all.
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