https://simpleflying.com/delta-90-load-factor/

Show me the money. Also, some positive space travel, since standby travel isn't a thing anymore.

But really, unless (untill) we have an operational melt down in 2019, I don't see how PS could be below 19-20%.

Just bought 2 tickets trying to get out of ALB the other day. Flights looked great day before and then weather hit NYC and all hell broke loose. Non revving sucks!

We only buy tickets now

I S2 nonrevved my family of 4 from ATL-SEA-ATL and we only missed 1 flight, but on the way out we got the last 4 seats and the way back we got 4 of the last 5. I solo S2 nonrevved ATL-DEN-ATL and got a couple middle seats on my 1st try each time, I made it out easily and got the last seat on the way back (when I was pretty sure it was going to be 2+ hours in the 73 JS, so that middle seat felt pretty good.) Nearly every leg I've flown in August has had a cockpit JSer or somebody who thought they'd be riding up front but got a last second ride in the back. It can be done but you definitely need to bring your S2s and flexibility along for the ride.

I have a family of five, I just buy tickets.

as much as i'd love that, i'd be very surprised if it's above 16%

How about we bargain out of the 6 yearly S2 nonrev worthless passes for 2 PS passes a year that are upgradable. Would the IRS take interest in free tickets?

I’m all for 2 PS passes a year over the current nonrev system.

WTF? Keep the S2's AND give us some PS passes. The S2's still have value and it would be a loss to lose that ability.

Agree, if all the other employee groups keeps their S2 passes then we are shooting ourselves in the foot outside the 1 trip per year we'd be able to take guaranteed.