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SonicFlyer , 07-17-2020 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by njd1

Scenario 2:

The government overreacts to a minor illness similar to the flu and shuts down the economy, putting 30+ million capable people out of work practically overnight, destroying entire industries in the process, all to save an infinitesimal number of people (0.03% to be precise) who would have died anyway from a variety of co-morbidities if they had caught the common cold.

I would argue Scenario 1 warrants no assistance but scenario 2 does, by virtue of the fact that we all want to work and are fully capable of working, yet the government's inept and irrational policies restrict us from doing so. They created the problem, so they're responsible for cleaning it up.

Except that anything the government gives to people is stolen from someone else. Inflation is a tax and taxation is theft.

The government screwed up, why should I be forced to pay the bill?

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HulkaBurger , 07-17-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

Except that anything the government gives to people is stolen from someone else. Inflation is a tax and taxation is theft.

The government screwed up, why should I be forced to pay the bill?

That mental illness acting up again, is it?

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Rightup , 07-17-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo

Which states would that be? I currently live in California and I can assure you this big -government state has screwed up the corona response as good as anyone, if not worse. The governor just announced today essentially the closing of all schools until January. Many of my business owner neighbors are staring at bankruptcy due to the mandatory shut down, reopen, shutdown goat rope here. This is a cluster everywhere it is ignorant and plain deceitful to suggest Democrat controlled states have somehow done a better job.

Western Europe, Aus, NZ, and the developed East Asian countries all have a better hold on the virus due to generally high-trust societies and governments that took swift action.

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Rightup , 07-17-2020 05:33 PM

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Yeah that’s about as subjective as it gets. Italy would beg to differ. Hell I bet North Korea is also doing great with this pandemic but not really a selling point for heavy handed governments.

Italy has 3x the population of Florida and had 1/10th the amount of deaths yesterday.

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SonicFlyer , 07-17-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HulkaBurger

That mental illness acting up again, is it?

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captive apple , 07-17-2020 07:14 PM

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Democracy was so repugnant to rulers because the serfs (>50% of the population) would be able to write laws taxing the lords.
It is only in recent times the desire to tax the lords has wained, but that might be changing.
Most Americans have been paying taxes in paycheck after paycheck while living some form of paycheck to paycheck life yet when they need a little help for the first in over a decade they become a “burden”. Meanwhile at the palace...

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lgaflyer , 07-18-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pad39a

+1. I want to keep my job...but I’m tired of punting to the next generation.

i dont have any kids, so I don't mind punting to the next generation

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pad39a , 07-18-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lgaflyer

i dont have any kids, so I don't mind punting to the next generation

It’s ok, at the rate we’re going kids won’t be well educated or socialized enough to actually catch the punt.

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F2m185 , 07-19-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HulkaBurger

That mental illness acting up again, is it?

Not sure about mental illness but his first statement is 100% accurate

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tallpilot , 07-19-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

Except that anything the government gives to people is stolen from someone else. Inflation is a tax and taxation is theft.

The government screwed up, why should I be forced to pay the bill?

We're all going to be paying the bill either way. It would probably be better to keep most of our salaries and our health insurance for another six months than deplete our savings. Compared to the unfathomable amounts spent over the past few months, airline payroll support is a drop in the bucket.