ULCC captain to Legacy?
12-18-2021, 02:21 PM
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ULCC captain to Legacy?
So if someone is under 40 a captain at a ULCC does it still make sense to start over at a legacy right now?
In my case I just upgraded to captain at F9 a few months ago, 38 years old, have an offer from both UA and AA. The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat. I will commute no matter what. I know it’s a loaded question with a lot of different things to consider.
It’s a tough choice to chew on, not sure it’s worth the gamble just for the ego boost?
In my case I just upgraded to captain at F9 a few months ago, 38 years old, have an offer from both UA and AA. The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat. I will commute no matter what. I know it’s a loaded question with a lot of different things to consider.
It’s a tough choice to chew on, not sure it’s worth the gamble just for the ego boost?
12-18-2021, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by singlepilot
So if someone is under 40 a captain at a ULCC does it still make sense to start over at a legacy right now?
In my case I just upgraded to captain at F9 a few months ago, 38 years old, have an offer from both UA and AA. The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat. I will commute no matter what. I know it’s a loaded question with a lot of different things to consider.
It’s a tough choice to chew on, not sure it’s worth the gamble just for the ego boost?
In my case I just upgraded to captain at F9 a few months ago, 38 years old, have an offer from both UA and AA. The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat. I will commute no matter what. I know it’s a loaded question with a lot of different things to consider.
It’s a tough choice to chew on, not sure it’s worth the gamble just for the ego boost?
I fly yellow planes. Works well.
12-18-2021, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by singlepilot
The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat.
there is, perhaps, more advantage to a legacy than ego but if you like your job I’d say keep it
12-18-2021, 04:27 PM
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legacy and dont look back. You still have 27 years left, would move up a lot quicker senority wise at the legacys, which when they get new contracts will probably blow away frontiers current rates. You also have much better benefits and different fleet types incase you want to switch/try something new. Getting on now you would be ahead of a huge hiring splurge with all the retirements. I would also feel much more secure at united/delta/american longevity than frontier.
12-18-2021, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by singlepilot
So if someone is under 40 a captain at a ULCC does it still make sense to start over at a legacy right now?
In my case I just upgraded to captain at F9 a few months ago, 38 years old, have an offer from both UA and AA. The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat. I will commute no matter what. I know it’s a loaded question with a lot of different things to consider.
It’s a tough choice to chew on, not sure it’s worth the gamble just for the ego boost?
In my case I just upgraded to captain at F9 a few months ago, 38 years old, have an offer from both UA and AA. The math does not favor the legacies at current pay rates unless I make the move to wide body left seat. I will commute no matter what. I know it’s a loaded question with a lot of different things to consider.
It’s a tough choice to chew on, not sure it’s worth the gamble just for the ego boost?
But you would spend several years on reserve before being a junior NB CA lineholder. WB lineholder FOs make about what top F9 CAs make, so there is that as well.
12-18-2021, 05:29 PM
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The answer to this question depends strictly on the commuting issue. If you’re not moving and plan to stay in your F9 base then you’re nuts to subject yourself to that many years of commuting. If however you’re open to a legacy’s domicile should you get hired, what better QOL than a widebody FO or captain sitting reserve in domicile?
12-18-2021, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The answer to this question depends strictly on the commuting issue. If you’re not moving and plan to stay in your F9 base then you’re nuts to subject yourself to that many years of commuting. If however you’re open to a legacy’s domicile should you get hired, what better QOL than a widebody FO or captain sitting reserve in domicile?
Reread the OPs post….
12-18-2021, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 3redpapi
legacy and dont look back. You still have 27 years left, would move up a lot quicker senority wise at the legacys
which when they get new contracts will probably blow away frontiers current rates.
You also have much better benefits
I would also feel much more secure at united/delta/american longevity than frontier.
12-18-2021, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Unless the pay scales are way off on APC, it’s certainly not a pay issue. NB CA at a junior coastal domicile can be had at UA as soon as you’re off probation right now. That is obviously a moving target, but NB CA year 2 pay at UA is more that the max at F9.
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