Althea… Bless her heart

She was my favorite! If my flight loads were looking bad for my commute she’d positive space me on my backup flight allowing me to spend more time at home.

Probably smarter to both go in as FOs. DECs traditionally don’t do very well at Piedmont and many end up as FOs by the time they hit the line. I can only think of one that made it through without having to do extra training events. Go in as a high time FO learn the way Piedmont does stuff and then upgrade.

Six to eight months on reserve for DECs is still being advertised. The line would be around the block one would think?

Also, do the bonuses have ALPA dues taken out or just pay? Do you wait a year while on probation for ALPA dues.
How many hotels do you actually get amonth?
And what is the commuter policy exactly?

Thank you

I understand recruiters have been known to embellish a few details here and there, but here's what's actually posted right now on the FAQs at https://piedmont-airlines.com/pilots...ht-deck-faqs/:

Note that this is under the header "Direct Entry Captain". So are y'all saying this is just a straight-up lie, or what?

That statement should read “Current Reserve time is 3 months for a zero 121 hour Piedmont New Hire who has been employed at Piedmont for 2 years and 4 months or longer.” That is 7 months in initial training, 15 months to build 1000 hours, four months in upgrade training. Even then it would be optimistic….

As a DEC every Piedmont FO senior to you that upgrades will keep pushing you down the list. Maybe at the 3.5 year mark you will be a consistent line holder. Just like at any other place as DEC.

I couldn’t get the link to load but as we all know “words mean things” and the company will twist words in recruiting the same way they do when they interpret the contract. They advertised a 5 year flow when I was a new hire but if you actually deconstructed their phrasing, and cornered a recruiter in person about how they got to that number…they were saying those flowing then were 5 years on property. they never gave that all important disclaimer “past performance is no guarantee of future results”

The good news is there is very little difference between a junior line holder and a reservist because they will both fly the same amount. The only real disadvantage comes from the ability to trade trips, and in taking vacation.

excellently said!
I left last month with 4+ years on property and wasn’t a line holder in Phl.(very close to one) I had been a captain for well over 3 months at that point, as always ymmv

Straight-up lie it is, then. I'll proceed accordingly. Thanks!

I remember when they were telling people 3-5 year flows… remember, they don’t lie, the truth changes.