Garbage TA rates, what’s going on here?
10-03-2022, 08:29 AM
#31
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,211
Originally Posted by Jdub2
they did not prevent the strike
10-03-2022, 09:59 AM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 947
Originally Posted by rickair7777
They sure helped prevent one. WH played both sides, IIRC they released the rail unions (to maintain labor-friendly position) but then did their best to mediate a deal to avoid a politically damaging strike and economic disruption.
the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening.
10-03-2022, 11:15 AM
#33
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,674
Originally Posted by Zard
the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening.
10-04-2022, 05:35 AM
#34
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,211
Originally Posted by Zard
the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening.
Ratification is in progress but it's multiple union groups, so while several have already ratified it's not a done deal. Kind of like if our contracts were bundled with FA's, mechanics, CSAs, and rampers... and all the other airlines. Potential hot mess.
10-04-2022, 07:55 AM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,099
Garbage TA rates, what’s going on here?
Originally Posted by rickair7777
They sure helped prevent one. WH played both sides, IIRC they released the rail unions (to maintain labor-friendly position) but then did their best to mediate a deal to avoid a politically damaging strike and economic disruption.
They actually never reached the point of being released. They agreed to a TA before the 30 day PEB deadline expired.
Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
The railroad unions are currently voting on their TA. Obviously, if they reject it, a strike may be back on the table. If the timeline pushes the start of a strike past early November, I could see the current administration letting it happen. Although, that’s playing with fire.
The administration’s hand have been dealt. There is nothing, legally, they can do if the unions reject the TA, to prevent a strike. It would be up to congress at that point if they want to prevent a possible strike.
10-04-2022, 10:31 AM
#36
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,674
The administration’s hand have been dealt. There is nothing, legally, they can do if the unions reject the TA, to prevent a strike. It would be up to congress at that point if they want to prevent a possible strike.
There is a difference between what administration’s legally can do and what often happens. If the union is told they aren’t released to self help, even though they have jumped through the legal hoops, they would then need to sue in Federal courts. This takes time and money.
There is a difference between what administration’s legally can do and what often happens. If the union is told they aren’t released to self help, even though they have jumped through the legal hoops, they would then need to sue in Federal courts. This takes time and money.
10-04-2022, 02:39 PM
#37
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 414
Originally Posted by Caveman
Because in pattern bargaining, the floor was set this time around by the sub inflation AS rates, and there reliance on me-too catch up clauses. Let others do the heavy lifting was the over arching strategy there.
This set the floor from which everyone else is working from.
This set the floor from which everyone else is working from.
10-05-2022, 12:53 PM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: American Airlines Brake Pad Replacement Technician
Posts: 472
Originally Posted by Texasbound
Then why don't you set the bar and show us how it is done..
What AS has done this time is what it is. They've set the floor. And the rest will now have that inertia to overcome. It is what is. It'll be someone else next time around.
Don't take my word for it. Ask any of the NCs thier opinions if the AS TA is a thrust or drag producing device.
10-06-2022, 10:38 AM
#40
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 21
Originally Posted by RimonaGregie
Because organized labor is weak and poorly understood? Pilots are unwilling to take risks needed for better agreements?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
